187 Koornang Road Carnegie VIC 3163

Development and use of the land as a two storey child care centre

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We found this application for you on the planning authority's website 2 months ago. It was received by them 7 days earlier.

(Source: City of Glen Eira, reference GE/DP-34572/2021)

19 Comments

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  1. Kelly commented

    This is a beautiful established period home and when it sold recently there was a lot of discussion by local residents concerned that it would be developed. We were to believe a family bought the property and this property would remain a much loved fixture in Carnegie. It is devastating to learn of this application. A new childcare was only recently opened less than 1km from this proposed development. This would be a perfect example of ‘over’ development and the destruction of local character. This is also nearby to the local primary school and Koornang Rd crossing, adding to traffic congestion in this area would be negligent to local safety.

  2. Saddened commented

    What a shame it would be to see a stunning period home and icon of Koornang Rd demolished to make way for yet another childcare centre.
    The childcare centres that we currently have in Carnegie and Murrumbeena are not even close to capacity. Our child is at a new local centre that is not even at 50% capacity yet.
    Also very concerned about the ramifications of such a development on traffic and congestion in Graceburn Ave which this property has access to.
    Please consider whether another childcare centre in the area is necessary given the many fantastic (and half empty) centres already on offer.

  3. Belinda commented

    Very sad. This house needs to be protected, have a heritage overlay.
    Traffic is already a nightmare around Carnegie primary due to the other development on Neerim road near kornang road. Tradies are taking up all the car spaces and children are in danger everyday with traffic everywhere. This development is not wanted or needed.

  4. Eleanor Newcombe commented

    This is an absolute sacrilege! Here will go yet another major piece of Carnegie's history. Does no one care anymore what happens in our suburb. Not only is it the loss of history and a most beautiful building, but WHY? We already have child care facilities in abundance but we do not have many heritage buildings left. As well the facility will mean more traffic congestion for the residents of Graceburn Ave and Koornang Rd. In all the recent years I cannot think of a more horrific decision to allow this beautiful and historic home to be replaced with yet another out of character modern monstrosity.

  5. Carol Stehle commented

    This property was the original Downards home and the first site of the Downards Furniture Removalist business. This home and gardens have been maintained to an exceptional standard and it would be a great pity to see this icon demolished.
    On a practical level, the school time traffic in Graceburn Ave is already horrific and having a child-care facility at the end of this street would exacerbate the problem.
    Hopefully the Council will take these things into consideration as it evaluates the application.

  6. Saddened commented

    What a shame it would be to see a stunning period home and icon of Koornang Rd demolished to make way for yet another childcare centre.
    The childcare centres that we currently have in Carnegie and Murrumbeena are not even close to capacity. Our child is at a new local centre that is not even at 50% capacity yet.
    Also very concerned about the ramifications of such a development on traffic and congestion in Graceburn Ave which this property has access to.
    Please consider whether another childcare centre in the area is necessary given the many fantastic (and half empty) centres already on offer.

  7. Elise Day commented

    This application must be reconsidered by the council - the charm of the house and what it brings to the local area must not be ignored in favour of further inappropriate development in Carnegie for needless childcare centres (schools however are needed and use of the land for Carnegie Primary would have been a much better option). The proposal to have a childcare centre there with access via Graceburn Ave should be not be permitted as childrens’ safety is already a high and real concern for both parents and the avenue’s residents - please let’s not tempt fate, or choose wealth and revenue, over the safety of our children.

  8. Andrew Day commented

    This would be a tragegy for Carnegie and this iconic and beautiful property. With so many apartments and developments popping up in the area, please don't underestimate the genuine happiness that gardens and heritage properties like these bring the community. Graceburn ave is also chaos already at drop off and pick up times and koornang rd is the same. Please veto this proposal and save this historic piece of Carnegie.

  9. Disappointed commented

    The purchaser of this property lead us all to believe he would be retaining the property to renovate and live in. And now to find out he lied and plans to develop it. This would be such a shame to lose yet another beautiful home to unnecessary development in what is already becoming and over developed area of Carnegie. At what point does the council stop developments and preserve the history of the area? There are few beautiful heritage homes left on Koornang road; to allow a concrete box childcare to be constructed will only take away from the aesthetics of the area. The loss of the beautiful gardens the previous owners have worked to create and preserve would be saddening to all around.
    Not to mention the added congestion to the area with the school already in place. And I hate to say it, the noise and extra traffic caused by a childcare centre which generally runs from 7am till 6pm at night is not fair on all neighbouring houses and nearby residents. This will also lower the value of all surrounding properties.

  10. Disappointed commented

    The purchaser of this property lead us all to believe he would be retaining the property to renovate and live in. And now to find out he lied and plans to develop it. This would be such a shame to lose yet another beautiful home to unnecessary development in what is already becoming and over developed area of Carnegie. At what point does the council stop developments and preserve the history of the area? There are few beautiful heritage homes left on Koornang road; to allow a concrete box childcare to be constructed will only take away from the aesthetics of the area. The loss of the beautiful gardens the previous owners have worked to create and preserve would be saddening to all around.
    Not to mention the added congestion to the area with the school already in place. And I hate to say it, the noise and extra traffic caused by a childcare centre which generally runs from 7am till 6pm at night is not fair on all neighbouring houses and nearby residents. This will also lower the value of all surrounding properties.

  11. Kate commented

    To loose this beautiful home with gardens maintained so well and adding green surroundings for the lane and primary school area would be sacrilege. The buyers of this property should be held in contempt so falsely assuring they would keep it as a family home. The LAST thing carnegie needs is more childcare or apartments. Let’s hope council does the numbers on childcare vacancies and realises this will be an oversupply. SHAME on the new owners. Is there no end to developers turning carnegie into a concrete jungle?

  12. Michaela Hill commented

    This beautiful property and well-maintained established gardens would make a fine childcare centre as is, IMHO, with sensitive custom-designed additions to bring it into line with appropriate legislative requirements for such a centre. Children learn about the past, about nature, through their engagement with the built environment in an authentic way. Early childhood educators would welcome the opportunity to work in an adaptive, reused environment such as this could provide. Wholesale demolition of this type would not be countenanced in modern European cities. I urge the Council to think outside the cookie-cutter concrete box and recall their own early childhood experiences that made them.

  13. Andy commented

    Old houses such as these make Carnegie a beautiful place to live and contribute immensely to the amenity of the area. The developments approved on Neerim and Koornang Rd are an absolute eyesore, building right up to the curb and removing any natural light. Approving this childcare centre (or any additional high rise development in its place) is only adding to that problem. Time to stand up and listen to your current constituents.

  14. Resident. commented

    I expect that our local government authority will listen to the residents and object to this development. I wonder why this was not heritage listed like quite a few other properties were. This guidelines for this listing were not in my opinion advertised and/or directed to the appropriate audience. City of Glen Eira you need to do better, much better if you expect to maintain your positions and our votes. We are not happy with your current responses.

  15. Steve Bennett commented

    There has to be a business feasability report included as part of the application. With these centres being built on every block in the area, I can only assume they're anticipating a lot of preschool age population growth.
    At the very least there needs to be conditions that no government handouts can be requested when they can't meet their minimum capacity, & if they close they have to rebuild the previous home & garden to exact specifications.
    With no disrespect to the actual people trying their best working within these box type setups, the developers should not be allowed to be called childcare centres, they're merely climate controlled child holding pens.
    There is an excellent example of childcare integration with a property like this completed in the last 12-18 months on Brighton Rd in Elsternwick (glen eira area) that should be a benchmark for the welfare & development of our children.

  16. Philip Wilkins commented

    So many apartments and developments on Neerim and Koornang Rd are an absolute eye sore. No more developments. I am concerned with traffic through Neerim Rd, Koornang Rd and the narrow streets in Carnegie. Graceburn ave and Truganini are also chaos already at drop off and pick up times and koornang rd is the same. This would be a tragedy for Carnegie and this iconic and beautiful property. Please veto this proposal and save this historic piece of Carnegie.

  17. Wilson Chong commented

    It is a very charming house and full of character. Shame that it is being torn down. What a waste!

  18. Jane Krause commented

    Hi I have actually been living away from Carnegie for nearly three years & have just moved back to the area, I had heard so much about The wonderful lane ways around the area that have been put together by the local people on Facebook & I have been actually waiting to see them for myself so I have just been for a few lovely walks checking all of the lane ways out in the last month or so & I must say that it is actually very pleasant to go for a walk around the area now. So when I actually found out about the proposed planning permit for number 187 Koornang Rd , Carnegie I was actually horrified to think that someone could actually even suggest building such a monster of a building in Koornang Rd of all places seeing that the lane way has just been done next to it well I just hope that it doesn’t get approved by the Glen Eria City Council this month because it would definitely spoil the look of the area.Not very Happy Resident.

  19. Jeremy commented

    Very sad the house is a piece of history. And we already have way too much child care centres that are not even half full. The traffic conditions in Carnegie and Koornang road don't make this development a sensible one.

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