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1. Why are they building another Hungry Jacks?
   There is one 2 km away on Belair rd and 2km the other way on South Rd. It will cause more traffic /noise on Angus rd and smell out the area.

2. We don’t want more fast food outlets in our neighbourhood. They are notorious generators of traffic, litter, noise and hoon behaviour. Please refuse this disastrous proposal.

3. A totally ridiculous proposal.
   As previously stated there is a Hungry Jacks on South Road and Belair Road. As a resident that resides less than 300 meters from this proposed sight, this outlet will cause no end of problems with traffic both on Goodwood Rd and Angus Rd.
   Do not allow this proposed development to go ahead.

4. Another fast food outlet contributes NOTHING positive for the residents of Westbourne Park and the wider community. I intend to protest in person to ensure Mitcham Council gets our message…NO MORE FAST FOOD OR PETROL STATIONS

5. Why are they building another Hungry Jacks?
   There is one 2 km away on Belair rd and 2km the other way on South Rd. It will cause more traffic /noise on Angus rd and smell out the area.

6. There are a lot of small food businesses in the area. Is the idea to swamp them with bad hamburgers to drive them out of operation? I prefer areas with lots of small businesses as a consumer. And I would have thought that Council would do better from them than on the run hamburger people doing a stop on their drive through to Willunga.

7. Please no hungry jacks. There’s one on south road only a few minutes away, or one on Anzac highway also only some 10 minutes away.
   These places create anti social behaviour and substantial on site rubbish as well as litter in surrounding streets. Take a look around maccas kings park to see the problem. Council bins overflowing with general waste that maccas churn out without a thought, hundreds of times daily.

8. We live 600m from Hungry Jacks/ KFC Hawthorn and every week we find rubbish in our hedge or verge. So I can back up the people who are objecting to a fast food place on that front.

   There are some lovely independent food places on Goodwood Rd and I'd hate to see them financially threatened by some soulless chain.

9. This is a terrible idea. This will create huge congestion issues on both Angus road and narinna avenue. Cause litter, noise and light pollution.

   This will crush small business and attract anti social behaviour.

10. I am concerned about a number of things: 1) we already have mass congestion on this road. Travel is 25 km per hr if you are lucky in peak hr. 2) we have too many fast food outlets in the area including 2 hungry jacks within 2 km currently. 3) it will increase traffic/danger racing down side streets that are very narrow already. 4) increased traffic/people/lighting/ noise pollution will impact on enjoyment of neighbouring houses and streets 5) the road quality is very poor on this stretch of road (disgraceful) and taking years to bring up to standard 6) there is an existing petrol station already opposite which will impact on congestion. 7) I would like local residents not just neighbouring properties to be consulted properly so they have a chance to voice their concerns.

11. I am concerned about a number of things: 1) we already have mass congestion on this road. Travel is 25 km per hr if you are lucky in peak hr. 2) we have too many fast food outlets in the area including 2 hungry jacks within 2 km currently. 3) it will increase traffic/danger racing down side streets that are very narrow already. 4) increased traffic/people/lighting/ noise pollution will impact on enjoyment of neighbouring houses and streets 5) the road quality is very poor on this stretch of road (disgraceful) and taking years to bring up to standard 6) there is an existing petrol station already opposite which will impact on congestion. 7) I would like local residents not just neighbouring properties to be consulted properly so they have a chance to voice their concerns.

12. I strongly support all of the objections voiced over this proposal and do not think this is a good idea. In particular the proper consultation of local residents should be a priority of council.

13. This deeply concerns me and as per previous posts I also oppose given:
    1) we already have mass congestion on this road. Travel is at best 25 km per hr if you are lucky in peak hr.
    2) we have too many fast food outlets in the area including 2 hungry jacks within 2 km currently (Belair Rd & South Rd Castle Plaza).
    3) increased waste, pollution as well as locally discarded litter & rubbish.
    4) The increased traffic down side streets that are very narrow already isn’t necessary.
    5) increased traffic/people/lighting & noise pollution will impact on enjoyment of neighbouring houses and streets
    6) increased traffic on an already outdated stretch of road increasing wear / tear & maintenance further impacting congestion, residents etc
    7) there is an existing petrol station already opposite which will further impact congestion.
    8) All residents especially the local residents & not just neighbouring properties should be consulted properly so they have a chance to voice their concerns.

14. I am a near by resident and strongly oppose this application. We have plenty of take away premises in the area and i am worried about the rubbish, noise, extra traffic down side streets that will occur. Also concerned about possible negative affects on small business in the area.
    There have been many small independent restaurants/takeaways near this location in the past couple of years which have been great for the area. I do not see a HJ's complementing this variety of outlets.
    Please do not allow this development.

15. This is an inappropriate site for a two storey fast food restaurant. It is already an incredibly dangerous intersection, only one accident away from being a Black Spot. Traffic banks up on Goodwood Rd with the lights at Grange Rd, and during peak hour, traffic is already at a standstill. Impatient drivers cut through the petrol station to access Goodwood Rd. Once the South Rd works begin, this stretch of road will be a disaster!

    The site is too small for its proposed purpose. It is also in a lovely character-filled established neighbourhood zone. According to the Desired Outcome 2, buildings must be of a scale and outcome that complements surrounding built form, streetscapes and local character and provide for landscaping and open space. This plan does none of this. It must not be approved, and I will be attending the CAP meeting on Thursday 7th October, 6.30pm at Mitcham Council to voice my opposition. I hope others will join me.

16. The specific reasons I believe that planning consent should be refused are as follows:
    My specialist surgical practice is located directly opposite the proposed development site and my 2 story building gives me a unique birdseye view of the geographical and traffic situation.
    I, and my many patients and several staff enter Goodwood Road from Narinna Avenue turn left then endeavour to turn right onto Angas Road, so I know the geography
    and the traffic dynamics very well, as well as any in the local community. I have had my practice at Hamilton House on Goodwood Road since 1988 and have seen the traffic situation deteriorate over the past 33 years and at an accelerated rate in recent years.
    There is considerable traffic already coming down Angas Road and also from the adjacent petrol station and many customers exit on to Angas Rd. Then they have to turn left or turn right onto Goodwood Rd. The traffic situation at the junction of Goodwood Rd and Angus Street is literally abominable, and it has got worse in the last year or two. It is particularly bad at peak times.
    There have been collisions over the years ( including a staff member) and it is certainly a risky area for something more serious, more so if the development is approved.
    Already at evening peak hour it can be tricky to exit Goodwood Rd and manoevre into the right hand lane to turn into Angas Rd because north bound traffic is banking up preventing one entering for turning right onto Angas. And the southbound traffic now banks up from the Edward St lights as far as Angas. This not only affects people leaving my facility but also from the many customers exiting BWS which is also located on the corner of Goodwood Rd and Narinna Ave.
    The situation will worsen when the south road tunnel is commenced as more traffic will divert to Goodwood Road.
    A high traffic development such as the one proposed will definitely exacerbate what is already a congested and nasty junction.
    Together with the local community I strongly oppose the proposed development on the grounds of the current and future traffic situations. It will create a diabolical situation for local businesses and residents.
    I urge Council & Planning to disallow the development.

17. Hi
    This type of structure is definitely not preserving, adding or improving to the local heritage of the surrounding areas
    This type of use for this site will detract and have negative impact on the surrounding heritage areas

18. Hi can someone explain “What Are Fast Food Emissions And Why Are They Killing Us?
    With so many residential houses so close I understand this will have bad health outcomes for residents

19. This will cause a large range of traffic issues and rubbish.
    We live on a street in near McDonalds.
    People park in the street to eat their takeaway. Daily there is dropped rubbish thrown out of cars.
    This will become a feature in the neighboring streets.
    Unfortunately another take away site will lead to more of this in the area.
    Not to mention the other comments of smell, health,traffic congestion, closely located Hungry Jacks

20. I totally agree with Allan and will be at the meeting to voice my opposition.

21. Previously I lived on Waterhouse Road, South Plympton, where a small On the Run was built on the corner with Marion Road. It turned Waterhouse Road into a very busy, noisy road. The same will apply to the corner of Goodwood Road and Angas Road if the Hungry Jack proposal goes ahead.
    Even without this proposal, the corner needs traffic lights as Angas Road is a very busy road with many vehicles coming from Belair Road.
    With the 40 Kilometre speed limit, I am often tailgated with numerous vehicles going over the speed limit. It is always difficult to exit Angas Road, at any time of day or night, either left or right, onto Goodwood Road because of the traffic on Goodwood Road. If the Hungry Jacks proposal is approved, it will only increase the traffic flow of the corner along with the graffiti and rubbish that will be left behind by its patrons.
    Please do not approve this development.

22. The proposed 'Hungry Jacks' development, make no sense when one looks at the proposed site. I do not understand where and how, it will all fit. The area of land is not that large and the traffic flow along both Goodwood Rd and Angas Rd is already at a peak and in desperate need of traffic lights to help cars onto and off of, Goodwood road. If one looks at other 'developments' of fast food places, one sees that they do NOTHING for the local area and are an eyesore on the landscape.
    Please DONOT degrade the local community of Westbourne Park, part of the historically significant Mitcham area, by allowing this unbelievably poor design to be built.
    Also local sporting groups ie tennis players who use the Batchelor reserve already have difficulty with parking and fill adjacent Shearer St. This will exacerbate congestion of the area.
    It is not needed or wanted and will lower the quality of life, air, noise, health, visual and traffic of the area. Please do not approve this application.

23. Council needs to stop thinking about short term $$$$ and start acting in accordance with the best interests of resident ratepayers who live in the local area. As summarised by all prev comments this development simply creates a worse traffic situation than what currently exists and will also create long term environmental issues to one of Adelaides prettiest suburbs.

    This needs to be stopped or the people who have been elected in the Mitcham council should be removed from their respective roles for failing to act in our (the local citizens) best interests.

24. No, thank you. Not okay with this. There is literally another Hungry Jacks only 3 streets away!
    Not a responsible use of money, and not an appropriate location to build a fast-food outlet.

25. No thank you, Mitcham Council. You need to listen to the residents on this one. Commercial development on Goodwood Road is to be expected, but this type of development in this location is absolutely unacceptable. This is an Established Neighbourhood Zone and this development does not meet the desired outcomes, your own requirements! The scale and design DOES NOT complement the existing surrounding built form, streetscapes and local CHARACTER. It does not provide for sufficient landscaping and open space.

    The traffic at that intersection is hazardous and dangerous. Safety for drivers, riders and pedestrians (many of whom are school children during peak hours) is a genuine problem. These issues will increase exponentially when the major South Road works begin, and will continue for years. Developers have only allowed for people exiting the ‘restaurant’ to do so via Angus Rd. This road only has one lane for entry onto Goodwood Rd, and is frequently backed up for 10 car lengths, particularly when people hold up traffic by turning right onto Goodwood Rd. This will block the ‘restaurant’s’ driveway entrance. People who can’t enter will then bank up and block traffic on Goodwood Rd. Disaster. Blocking off an arterial road is never a great plan.

    The size of the tiny block doesn’t allow for enough customer car parks (17 in total, INCLUDING the waiting bay, staff, disability, so only 11 of these will be for customers.) They will park up Angas Rd, creating poor visibility, hence more safety issues. Please remember that Angas Rd in not an arterial road. It is only 40kmph.

    This 2 storey ‘restaurant’ backs right onto people’s homes. Not small businesses, surgeries or shops, but people’s homes and backyards, where they play with their children. Some empathy is required when making decisions that will permanently impact lives like this.

    Yes, commercial development is expected along Goodwood Road. This is the wrong site for this development. Mitcham Council needs to reject this development for the above reasons. I will be at the CAP meeting on Thursday 7th October.
    

26. The proposed development is of concern for a number of reasons:

    1. There is already traffic congestion through the day. The proposed location is opposite a current petrol station and the corner is already busy and safety is a concern either turning left or right into Angas Road from Goodwood Road. This development will just add to congestion and danger of that intersection.
    2. Angas Road traffic is considerable and we walk everyday around the area and many vehicles do not appear to adhere to speed limits. The development has the potential to increase this problem. Are speed humps an option?
    3. There are already a number of fast food outlets including Hungry Jacks close by. Given the negative aspects of the development including traffic, noise and smells and reduction in overall amenity for Westbourne Park cannot see the net community benefit.
    4. Goodwood Road is already a very busy main road throughout the day and we have noticed it has become even busier over the last 12 months. Not sure whether it’s a flow on from the already congested South Road?
    5. We have observed that on Constance Street, vehicles driving (passing through the suburb) down Constance Street either from Goodwood Road or Sussex Tce often appear to do so well in excess of the 40 km limit and I am concerned this will only increase with the proposed development. Again, are speed humps an option?
    6. Also concerned whether Batchelor Reserve will be used by customers of Hungry Jacks. During the day children and grandchildren use the reserve. At night time there may be additional noise and inappropriate use of the reserve with reduced amenity for surrounding homes.

27. I live on Somerset Ave and getting out to Goodwood Rd to turn right is very hard now and believe the extra traffic would make this very dangerous and even harder with the increased traffic and agree it would crest competition with the already small food businesses popping up so we might loose these wonderful little businesses

28. Agree with all against comments. There use to be a pizza place on corner of Grange and Goodwood, (now a paving shop) The night traffic of delivery drivers was horrible on constance and Samson as this was the only access, this was
    before Uber etc delivery services, the night impact of this development on local traffic will be terrible, cars using side streets to gain Angus St entry, all night every night. The delivery service is a considerable part of HJ business, has this been discussed or considered by planners and council. Mitcham Council have never ever adjusted to traffic concerns in this area, no traffic management, no "local traffic" strategy, no stopping "rats" cutting through area in mornings and afternoon.
    Andrew Dungey
    Constance st

29. I made a comment about my concerns direct to plan sa, however at that time I wasn’t aware that the building would be 2 storey.
    Great concern for those neighbours surrounding the site in relation to their privacy as well as those backyards even further away who will be impacted visually as well as with air pollution and smell. This development is not in Character of Westbourne Park and we have more than adequate fast food services in the area. This development will have a direct. Impact on small businesses on Goodwood Road.

30. I totally agree on all the objections already voiced by other residents. We don’t need another Hungry Jacks when there are already 2 close by .
    One thing Mitcham Council needs to address on this site is to stop it being a dumping ground . Also, this intersection needs traffic lights .

31. This proposal should be vehemently refused by the Mitcham council in the interest of maintaining "the community health" of Westbourne Park/Cumberland park. The site is inappropiate for a fastfood drive through restaurant, and its go ahead will drastically worsen the already congested intersection of Angus and Goodwood rds as well as nearby side street intersections with Goodwood Rd. As already mentioned it will greatly increase the chance of a fatal car accident here. The fallout with noise, "fastfood" pollution and hoon behaviour will greatly detract from a beautiful residential area not to mention its detrimental impact on neighbouring homes. With several fastfood outlets already existing within a 2 km radius (including 2 Hungary Jacks), I fail to see the slightest necessity for this "development". Please, Mitcham Council listen to your community members and deny go ahead of this deplorable proposal.

32. This will cause a large range of traffic issues and rubbish.
    We live on a street in near McDonalds.
    People park in the street to eat their takeaway. Daily there is dropped rubbish thrown out of cars.
    This will become a feature in the neighboring streets.
    Unfortunately another take away site will lead to more of this in the area.
    Not to mention the other comments of smell, health,traffic congestion, closely located Hungry Jacks

33. I live on Constance Street (lived here for more than 40 years) and am very concerned about the negative impacts of this development including the following:

    1. The site is clearly too small for this type of development. There is insufficient space for parking. Two stories will detract from the character of the nearby housing.

    2. The development will cause traffic congestion at the junction of Angas road and Goodwood road and make the intersection more dangerous. It may lead to increased traffic on Constance Street, which is very narrow and already congested with existing parking and traffic. When cars are parked on both sides of Constance Street the road is often blocked. Constance street and Angas road are often used by children walking and riding bikes.

    3. I have concerns about the impact on the reserve opposite including litter problems and inappropriate use of the reserve.

    4. We already have a lot of fast food outlets nearby including Hungry Jacks on Belair road and one on South road. Not to mention MacDonalds on Goodwood road.

    5. There is no net benefit to the community from this development rather a net dis-benefit.

    6. The proposed development is likely to adversely affect local small business in the area.

    I support all the objections outlined in these submissions.

34. Not another hungry jacks. There are already 2 hungry jacks and a McDonald’s within 2 kilometres. It will impact local businesses who have established themselves next to the BWS. Parking and traffic is becoming an increasing issue as we see blocks subdivided and replaced by 2 or more residencies.

35. Mitcham Council and DIT need to listen to the local residents when we tell you that this is a very dangerous intersection - we use it daily. A traffic report commissioned from a very reputable firm, MFY, and paid for by residents has informed you that this intersection is one accident away from being declared a Black Spot. And you’re going to plonk a high-traffic business here? Not such a great plan. How will this extra burden be addressed? With another set of traffic lights? This is already a very narrow stretch of Goodwood Rd, with parking allowed in at least one lane at any given time of day. And watch this space when the South Rd works begin - it will be placed under incredible pressure. Drivers already take risks at this intersection.
    The plan of exit only onto Angas Rd won’t avoid causing congestion on Goodwood Rd. It will shift congestion into the Goodwood/Angas intersection. The exit onto Angas Rd is directly opposite that of the service station and this is already dangerous.
    Another genuine safety concern is that impatient drivers drive the wrong way up Angas Rd to access Goodwood Rd through the petrol station. As a resident who lives on Angas Rd, I assure you that this happens frequently.
    I will be at the CAP meeting on 7th October to express my concerns. Other concerned residents are welcome.
    Mitcham Council - please listen to the concerns of the residents,
    DIT - be very careful of your arterial route Goodwood Rd. This development will not only impact locals, but all who use this road, for years to come. The locals are trying to tell you. Listen to them!

36. Please do not do build a two story Hungry Jacks on that corner. The traffic is so busy at peak hour. People turning right will become impatient and accidents will happen. The two story in Mt Barker is so bright. Children in this area do not need another fast food establishment. The local residents will be impacted by the horrible smell this fast food chains produce. Cleaning their clothes on the clothesline will be impacted. The integrity of this area will change from classy to ‘junk food strip’. Local restaurants will suffer from financial loss. As a local resident that has invested $1 million into my property, I don’t want a fast food shop nearby that will deteriorate my investment.

37. Wow we have Aldi on the corner on Angas & Belair traffic is chaos their and now Angas and Goodwood Road.
    As a resident of Angas road this is not a good thing to put in place, especially also when you have the petrol station and the cars coming in & out from there I nearly had an accident the other day.
    Im actually in shock you would be thinking of putting this there.
    Listen to your locals we know better!

38. That corner is already very busy, with traffic rushing join or leave Goodwood road from multiple different directions. The number of children which have to cross at this dangerous section of road will only increase if this development goes ahead, and it's just a matter of time until the unthinkable happens. There isn't a decent solution to the current traffic problems, and I have seen nothing reasonable proposed to prevent it getting worse.

39. No thanks, HJs doesn't even taste nice! We already get McDonald's food scraps and wrappers scattered down Goodwood Road, tempting our dog. We don't want her to be subject to even poorer nutrition choices.

    Our family walks past this site multiple times a day and yes this is an eye sore. Why not house small businesses or offices like the other developments on goodwood road near by? This corner is already very busy in the morning and afternoon and a danger for motorists and pedestrians. We don't need more traffic, accidents and the smell of grease wafting into our yard every day.

40. Hello everybody
    I have little knowledge of how this all works but does THIS FORUM have any impact in favour of your concerns to the decision ?
    DONT GET DISTRACTED THINKING YOU HAVE DONE EVERYTHING AS THE ONLY THING THAT COUNTS IS CONTACTING MITCHAM COUNCIL While everyone’s comments are recorded I don’t think your input has any one listening to you
    I hope I’m wrong but by the looks of things this Forum has been set up to vent the concerns of our community, which may, and no doubt alert current and future developers to profile our community
    Please come to the council meeting,talk to your neighbours and stay safe
    Please see you at the Mitcham Council meeting
    XX Michael

41. Michael, I have received a comment from Unley (I think) Council after a comment put on this site, so maybe they really do see them? But I don't know if that is consistent and/or thorough. Somebody could point out to Mitcham Council that there is a lot of outrage about this particular development application.

42. I do not support this development proposal on multiple fronts as follows:
    1) Traffic in that area of Goodwood road is already very busy and the proposed development will only make that worse. The traffic management arrangements have been poorly conceived with no consideration of how traffic would interact with the other existing businesses in the area such as the Service Station, Doctors Surgery and BWS bottle shop.
    2) Narinna Avenue (one of Cumberland Parks most scenic streets) has already developed into a short cut to get to the BWS and Doctors Surgery. Adding a fast food facility in the proposed location will significantly increase the volume of traffic using Narinna Avenue. In my view, MCC already need to consider additional traffic management controls in Narinna avenue even without the addition of another high traffic volume business.
    3) Rubbish and waste management - using the BWS as an example, where empty beer bottles are regularly dumped in the street by people walking from the bottle shop, I would full expect the volume of rubbish dumped in the street around Hungry Jacks to significantly increase. This is totally unacceptable anywhere let alone in a residential setting.
    To be clear, it would be fantastic to see the site in question developed into a working commercial business. However, a fast food facility when there are numerous already operating in the area is not a resident compatible proposal.

43. I imagine that if Hungry Jacks were to put out a petition to gauge support for the proposed development, there would be very few signatures. The development will obviously favour the developer and not the local community and if the Mitcham Council remotely appreciated the character of the area, it should have knocked the proposal on the head at the onset purely on that basis.
    The Goodwood /Angas road intersection is already congested in peak hour periods Vehicles bank up on Angas road waiting to turn either left or right onto Goodwood road.
    With no traffic management planned for this intersection, motorists will be forced to run the gauntlet in an attempt to merge with Goodwood road north and south bound traffic - a dangerous and potentially fatal option.
    The development will not fit the character of the area and will certainly attract "hoon" behaviour along Angas road. Hungry Jacks discarded packaging on Angas road and side streets will become an issue for residents.
    I strongly disagree with the proposed development.

44. I'm incredibly concerned about traffic on Angas Road in peak hour. We continually have peak hour build up with impatient drivers cutting through the service station on wrong side of Angas Road to cut in front of exiting Angas Road right hand turning vehicles. Hungry Jacks will attract many school children and the crossing here is not safe.and will not be safe. It is a major concern. If you stand on the corner in peak hour you notice the blind spot it imposes with people turning right into Angas Road from Goodwood Road. Cars exiting Hungry Jacks will not be seen and it will be accident(s) waiting to happen. Being a fast food outlet it will attract a high volume of exiting cars in peak hour which will cause many impatient people.

45. This proposed Hungry Jacks site on the corner of Goodwood and Angas Road at Westbourne Park is apparently already one traffic accident away from a black listed spot. The corner is already highly congested with the proposal ill conceived and poorly planned. A double story building will block vision for drivers making a right hand turn onto Goodwood Rd from Angus Rd making this unsafe. It will also further congest Goodwood Road which is a main arterial North/South Rd corridor where the state government has spent millions for improved traffic flow just 1km up the road near the repatriation health precinct.

    Not to mention the proposed building is an out of character eye sore in an area listed as a character area in the DPA.

    Got me scratching my head......

46. We are writing in strong opposition to the above proposed development.

    As residents of Caulfield Avenue, Cumberland Park, we live very close to the proposed Hungry Jacks development site.

    Our opposition is primarily due to;

    • The increased traffic congestion and dangerous traffic conditions that this drive-through facility will create.
    • The disregard for the proposed ‘Character’ zoning of Westbourne Park / Cumberland Park
    • Lack of transparency and community consultation for a development of this size and impact

    TRAFFIC

    This area of Goodwood road is becoming increasingly congested and dangerous – especially during peak travel time between 4.00pm – 6.30pm

    Driving conditions are impacted by the narrowing of this section of Goodwood road due to South-bound vehicles wishing to turn right into their ‘home’ streets of Somerset / Kyeema / Narinna / Caulfield Avenues.

    During peak traffic times (especially in the afternoon / evening), vehicles have to wait considerable time on Goodwood Road for a gap in traffic, which enables them to turn right into their street.

    This narrows Goodwood Road down to a single lane, which is further impacted by traffic entering and exiting the existing service station, and wishing to exit or enter Angus Road. If traffic is banked on Angus Road, it is not unusual to witness vehicles entering the service station courtyard to use their drive-way to exit onto Goodwood Road, due to the poor conditions exiting from Angus Road onto Goodwood Road.

    This is further exacerbated by the traffic lights at the intersection of Goodwood Road and Edward / Grange Roads approximately 100m away. During peak hour, traffic can be banked from the lights all the way back to Angus Road, making exit from Angas Road extremely difficult, dangerous and almost impossible. This also greatly impacts the ability to enter Kyeema, Narinna and Caulfield Avenues with safety.

    Further exacerbating the issue is the existing BWS drive-through on the opposite side of Goodwood road, increasing the dangerous conditions.

    As residents of Caulfield Avenue, we have lost count of the times that we have been ‘honked’ or narrowly avoided a rear-end collision from inattentive or impatient drivers, whilst we have been waiting to turn down one of these side-streets… simply to access our home! Although we live at the Goodwood road end of Caulfield Avenue, we mostly access Caulfield Avenue from Winston Avenue, and drive the entire length of the street, as this is usually the safest option – all to access our home which is just in from Goodwood Road.

    One of our concerns is that a sufficient traffic analysis has not been undertaken during this peak period, but during quieter periods - which is totally useless.

    A high-volume drive-through fast-food outlet of this nature would not only contribute to the already dangerous conditions on this section of road, but also attract children & teenagers after school.

    Unlike the McDonalds on Goodwood Road / Cross Road intersection, this intersection is unregulated and has no traffic or pedestrian lights. The addition of children on bikes, scooters and foot during peak-hour to this already dangerous intersection is a recipe for disaster!

    It would be unfeasible to place traffic lights at this intersection, due to the existing lights in close proximity at the intersection of Goodwood Road and Edward / Grange Roads. It would also be grossly unfair to ratepayers & taxpayers to fund traffic lights simply to appease a developer wishing to build a Hungry Jacks.

    We believe that this intersection is already flagged as a potential ‘Black Spot’ location, and Angus Road is a 40km zone, meaning that there is already recognition of poor traffic conditions.

    It is also worthy to note that in 2016, consideration was given to the congestion along Goodwood Road, and measures were taken to ease congestion along the Road. The #12 bus stop was moved as part of this process - this bus stop was in the exact location of this proposed development site.

    To consider the placement of a high-volume drive-through of this nature appears to display a total lack of knowledge regarding this dangerous location and/or a total disregard to the adverse conditions that it will cause

    (Note; Garth is the creator and administrator of a 21 year-old road safety initiative that has been recognised as a trophy winner at the Australian Road Safety Awards, and also supported by over 70 x councils across Western Australia and Tasmania)

    ZONING

    Further disregard has been given to the zoning of this area.

    We recently returned to our home-city of Adelaide after spending 25 years in Perth, and chose Cumberland Park due to its ‘character’ nature and predominantly single-storey buildings, with a good tree canopy and parks.

    There are very few 2-storey buildings along Goodwood Road, and those that are there have been build many decades ago.

    Our opinion of the suburb was also reinforced due to the consideration by the City of Mitcham for ‘Character’ zoning of Cumberland Park and Westbourne Park, as evidenced in the Council’s ‘Shape Your Place’ documentation: https://www.mitchamcouncil.sa.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0021/90147/shape_your_place_brochure.pdf

    Whilst we recognise that Goodwood Road is a ‘commercial’ zone and will attract commercial buildings, we fail to see how a 2-storey Hungry Jacks outlet fits into the ‘Character’ zoning of these suburbs! The building plans show no redeeming ‘character’ features, and the 2-storey design is not in keeping with the predominantly single-storey buildings in the area. In the Council’s own words from its ‘Shape Your Place’ document: “typically single storey detached dwellings – mostly bungalow and villa style; and low density of development – single storey, detached dwellings.”

    This is a blatant disregard of the Council’s own planning documentation for the region and an insult to all residents and rate-payers who have chosen these suburbs due to their zoning and overall nature of the suburbs. We chose this suburb, confident that whilst not ‘heritage’ listed, consideration would be provided to the ‘character’ environs.

    I refer you again to the Council’s own documentation: https://www.mitchamcouncil.sa.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0021/90147/shape_your_place_brochure.pdf

    This explicitly states:

    The Planning and Design Code will allow for a limited number of sub-zones which identify areas of “special character”. For this reason, we have reviewed the whole of the council area and identified several areas which are thought to have a special character which should be protected through additional rules within the Planning and Design Code. These areas include parts of:-
    • Cumberland Park;
    • Westbourne Park;

    Characteristics of both suburbs are:

    • Cumberland Park: “typically single storey detached dwellings – mostly bungalow and villa style; and• low density of development – single storey, detached dwellings.”

    • Westbourne Park: “low density of development – typically single storey detached dwellings – mostly bungalow, villa and tudor style; • consistent setback distance of dwellings from front boundaries;”

    A 2-storey Hungry Jacks certainly does not fit into these aspirational zoning plans and characteristics.

    Why would the Council act in opposition to its own planning and zoning aspirations?

    If the Council feels that it is complying with these aspirations, then we consider that they have wasted a great deal of ratepayer finances in producing the ‘Shape Your Place’ study and documentation, as they are obviously ignoring its findings.

    We have felt absolutely betrayed by the City of Mitcham in this respect.

    CONSULTATION

    We are also insulted and betrayed that the City of Mitcham deemed it fit to consider that ‘Community Consultation’ only required an A3 core-flute sign to be attached to the fence of the development site.

    No-one in the vicinity of Cumberland Park was letterbox-dropped or advised of this development – one which significantly imposes on not only the prevailing traffic conditions, but also the amenity and ‘character’ nature of the area.

    This is sheer arrogance and disrespect to the rate-payers!

    Whilst the ‘Community Consultation’ period may have originally been extended to accommodate some early errors, if none of the residents were informed at all about the development, then the extension was moot.

    It took active residents to do their own letterbox dropping to inform neighbours of the proposed development, before anyone knew about it.

    When we discovered the development proposal, we submitted our own response via SA Planning + advising that we would like to address the meeting, and did not receive any further communication from the City of Mitcham. To-date, we have not received any response advising of our attendance at the planning meeting in follow-up to our request to present at the meeting.

    The entire consultation and information process has been totally inadequate, considering the impact of the proposed development on the area.

    OTHER

    I have seen posts on social media and heard on ABC Radio that the development block is overgrown, has graffiti on fences, rubbish on the block etc…

    It is not outside the realms of possibility that the developer has let the block fall into dereliction so that residents would rather have ‘anything’ on the site, than the rubbish and wees that are there now.

    It could also be considered negligent of the City of Mitcham to allow the development site to fall into this state of disrepair, and not enforce the owner to maintain this site to reasonable community standards.

    This also applies to another site on the diagonal opposite of Goodwood Road near the pedestrian lights, which is covered in graffiti and also being allowed to fall into disrepair.

    This is developer psychology at work – hoping that residents welcome a ‘developed’ site, as opposed to eyesores in the community.

    Is the City of Mitcham enforcing any of their policies upon the owners to ensure that each site is presentable or are they also complicit in hoping that residents will accept any form of development, simply to ‘clean the site up’?

    SUMMARY

    In summary, we understand that properties along Goodwood road are primarily zoned ‘commercial’ and we therefore anticipate businesses to enter the area.

    We consider the proposed development to be totally unacceptable to the area however, for the reasons as posted above, and the entire process has been an insult to the ratepayers and voters of this area.

    Those responsible will not have to live or travel in the immediate vicinity of the development, and would be unaffected by its presence. Those of us in the immediate surroundings however, will have to live with the outcome and adverse affects for a considerable time, and be impacted daily.

    We are not naïve to think that the opinions of a single property owner in this area such as ourselves will have an impact.

    It absolutely galls us however that our vote, rates and opinion hold such little consideration against the will of a developer.

    We moved back to Adelaide after 25 years in Perth, Garth has started a business here in Adelaide and we did our research on the suburb where we would like to live - only to be faced with this dreadful proposition.

    Our council, representatives and bureaucrats have abandoned us, which we will never forget…

47. I am very concerned about the increase in traffic on Angas Road and also the congestion on the Angas Rd & Goodwood Road corner.
    I have recently got my drivers license & even though turning out the end of my street onto Goodwood Road is the most direct way to go to school, the shops etc, I will in most cases go the longer way via the back streets and come out on Cross Road, because of the delay & lack of turning opportunities to get onto Goodwood road from Angas Road.
    I also know that the increase in traffic will make our street business & noisier. We love living in this quiet leafy suburb & this proposed development has the potential to change the ambiance of my suburb.
    I oppose the proposed development

48. As a teenager I love Hungry Jacks - but why do we need we another one in the same area? There is one at MItcham and a McDonalds on Cross rd
    I have recently started to learn to drive - but I can already tell that as a learner driver this corner is one I want to avoid.
    The traffic is always backed up and it takes forever to turn onto Goodwood rd from Angas rd.
    I don't agree with putting Hungry Jacks in on this corner

49. Reference the Hungry Jacks proposed construction on the corner of Angas and Goodwood Rd. If the construction of this Hungry Jacks goes ahead the congestion on this corner will be worse than what it is present and believe an incident/accident will happen. As an example on Tuesday 27th Sep I got fuel from the Caltex servo at around 1615, I was going to leave the servo via the exit on Angas, a 4WD and trailer was also leaving via their exit but wanted to turn right onto Angas. This vehicle was unable to leave as the there were cars backed up due to a vehicle wanting to turn right out of Angas onto Goodwood. At the same time a vehicle on Goodwood wanted to turn right onto Narinna, behind this vehicle there were vehicles backed up to the servo. No one was moving, drivers were getting frustrated and just started to pull out hoping the moving traffic would stop.
    The only proposed exit from Hungry Jacks will be onto Angas and in this situation they would not be able to exit, there are vehicles exiting from the servo, turning right and left from Goodwood into Angas and now vehicles exiting from Hungry Jacks. This is a recipe for an accident.
    This is my two cents worth.

50. As a resident who lives on Angas Road I am very concerned about the impacts this development will have on our area and am strongly opposed to the proposal.
    1. Traffic - for a side street off Goodwood road, our street currently is extremely busy in the mornings between 6.30 & 10.30am and afternoons 2.30 to 7.30pm. This traffic flow has increased considerably over the last 5 years, and at times the traffic turning out of Angas Road onto Goodwood Road can be 15-20 cars deep. The traffic turning right off Goodwood road into Angas Road is also considerable & will be 5-10 cars deep at times. By putting a busy business on this corner, will only increase the traffic and bank up on Angas Road, and potentially will cause frustration by the residents and potentially accidents as cars try to turn right into the proposed Hungry Jacks entrance, across the traffic already waiting to turn out of Angas Road.
    Note: I believe that the traffic consultancy report submitted by with this proposal is insignificant & not up to date as it is dated 2016. The dynamics of the are has changed considerably over the years & this report does not accurately report the current situation.
    2. Street parking near the proposed site - mid week during the day the parking opportunities are OK - but on the weekends & evenings when the residents are home the parking is greatly diminished as the residents are using the street to park, which is their prerogative. Also it has not taken into account the 4 x Tennis courts at Bachelor Reserve, which every weekend has competition tennis, and the only available parking for these sportspeople is the street parking along Angas Rd, Norsemen and Harvey Streets.
    3. Noise & Air pollution from the site - this will increase and once again I believe that the reports submitted with the proposal are not accurate. Currently after 9pm at night - this area is a quiet suburb, but by the premises being open to mid-night the increase in traffic, both on foot & via cars will considerably increase. Fumes and noise of cars and trucks idling while waiting to access the property, including the delivery & rubbish removal
    3. Rubbish removal & deliveries to the site - the entrance for these vehicles will be via Angas road & as proposed will be outside of business hours - once again creating an imposition to the local residents.
    4. Disrespect to local residents & Drop in Property Values in the area - the increase in litter being dropped in the streets, the congregating and loitering of young people & undesirables, opening up to opportunities for damaging to surrounding properties, & local infrastructure.
    5. The lack of consultation and correspondence with local residents by both the
    developer & Local Council about the proposed development has been a great shock, extremely disappointing & not given us sufficient time to prepare a strong opposition.
    6. Duplication of similar business within 2km radius
    * Hungry Jacks - 238 Belair Road, Hawthorn - 1.9kms away
    * McDonalds - 339 Goodwood Rd, Kings Park - 1km away

51. As a resident on Angas Road the last 16 years, i oppose this development. I am
    also disappointed at the lack of consultation with the residents. Furthermore, I am also confused as to why we need another hungry jacks when there is one literally 2 mins away on Belair Rd! We should be promoting, especially to our younger community, healthier lifestyles and values not unhealthy ones.
    Secondly, having a hungry jacks is going to cause more traffic chaos. The traffic flow from Angas Road onto Goodwood Road is already heavy, particularly at peak hours. It is frustratingly difficult trying to get onto Goodwood Rd from Angas Rd and vice versa. A drive thru fast food establishment right on that corner will even cause more disturbances to the traffic flow. To make matters worse, the fast food joint will be situated literally less than 400m from a busy traffic light (intersection of Grange Rd and Goodwood Rd). I can only envision this causing more unwanted traffic issues eg accidents, severe traffic congestion and frustrated motorists. Build some homes instead. It’s aesthetically more pleasing to look at and definitely less pollution!

52. Hi I would like to draw attention to findings of a report regarding rubbish related to areas surrounding fast food outlets please copy and paste the link below https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-01/circles-of-rubbish-ring-fast-food-restaurants-says-riverkeeper/8578876?utm_campaign=news-article-next-actions-panel-2-0&utm_content=link&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_source=abc_news_web

53. Hi I’m really concerned also about the health effects of the airborne pollution on our community below is a small exert from a report on line
    Grilling Hamburgers in Fast Food Restaurants – Volatile Organic Compounds (VOCs)
    Scientists have long identified PM – which are solid and liquid contaminants that become airborne – as one of the most dangerous pollutants to human health.
    In addition to the PM released by the process, grilling hamburgers also cause grease, smoke, heat, water vapor and combustion products that all contain harmful pollutants.
    Exposure To Cooking Fumes Causes Health Problems
    And research has found that short-term and long-term exposure to cooking fumes such as the fumes released by fast food restaurants can have adverse effects on human health.
    The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) found that smoke from frying or grilling increases exposure to carbon monoxide and could affect the health of unborn babies. (5)
    The smoke from grilling contains toxic chemicals known as polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs) that are harmful to the lungs. Constant and long-term exposure to PAHs has been linked to pulmonary disease, gastrointestinal, and cancer.
    “In the past few years, research has found that the emissions generated by fast food restaurants are beginning to exceed vehicle emissions in some major cities,” stated Charlie Seyffer, Camfil USA Manager of Technical Material. “This is especially true for fast food restaurants that specialize in barbecued or charbroiled foods because the process of cooking in this manner generates significantly more harmful

54. Colonel Light gardens is a heritage listed suburb and only a stone’s throw from the Goodwood Road / Angas Rd Intersection in Westbourne Park where this development has been proposed. The houses in Westbourne Park and particularly those on Angas Rd also exemplify the same character, quality and charm of those that merited Colonel Light Gardens it’s heritage listed status. This status is put in place to ensure that future developments adhere to aesthetic and social elements within a coherent plan.

    This two-storey high-volume drive-through development will certainly not fit in with the character zoning of the surrounding suburbs. It will also most definitely (and unfairly) depreciate the monetary value of housing within the area by adding further traffic congestion to what is already a dangerous intersection with high traffic flows. It is disheartening that no community stakeholder engagement or consultation has taken place with respect to this proposed development.

55. To everyone who has complained about the Hungry Jacks development.

    The council meeting to decide is 7th October 6:30pm at Council Chambers - you can get the agenda on the council website. It's a public meeting. You only get to speak if you made a submission correctly (not by commenting on this website). The agenda contains conditions like opening hours (gets to stay open till 11pm and Midnight). And the plans.

    Here I will tell you how to officially have a say on the development. The deadline for a formal say has passed. But there are other ways which I also include. This will be long. So much for a simplified planning system.

    There are rules about how you may complain and commenting on planning alerts - your comment does get sent to council but they may not be the ones making the decision.

    The councillors won't be deciding. They only get a decision on planning applications that council makes on council land eg the Blackwood Library Hub.

    The coreflute sign on the property - indicates that this is a "Performance Assessed" development application which means it doesn't comply with the rules for this block of land. If nobody follows the instructions on the plan.sa.gov.au website for that application - nobody gets a say. Some of these things - only the immediate neighbours get a say. And only the immediate neighbours get a note in their letterbox.

    And the authority that decides if the application is approved - may ignore all your correctly made submissions - let alone the complaints made here.

    What you can do besides a formal submission (I think the deadline has passed), write to
    mitcham@mitchamcouncil.sa.gov.au
    hopefully they will send you the right info for making a submission and tell you what the assessment process is - like who is deciding if the plans get approved or not. You may be able to attend the Mitcham Council Assessment Panel (CAP) meeting that might be deciding on this one. Details of their meetings are on the Mitcham Council website. I don't know when they will be deciding on this one. You can ring and ask. They have a meeting scheduled for 7th October which is usually open to the public. 429 Goodwood road is on that Agenda as item 5.1, you should all go.

    https://www.mitchamcouncil.sa.gov.au/build-and-develop/council-assessment-panel

    You can also find Hungry Jack's facebook page and complain there. Or you can find their HQ address for SA and send them emails or letters with stamps. A while back a Bunnings was planned for near Bedford Industries across from Springbank College and there was sufficient uproar from the local community because of the traffic problems it would have caused while State Government were insisting the dog leg intersection had to stay... that Bunnings decided it wasn't worth proceeding - or waiting for the intersection to be fixed.

    You can get organised. Make a flyer, letterbox your neighbours, organise a meeting at the local cricket club or tennis club, invite Carolyn Power (your local state MP) and Vickie Chapman (planning minister) and maybe Coralie Cheney and Rod Moss (your local councillors - not that they get any say but they might be able to act on litter, noise and pollution complaints after it's built). And invite the transport minister Corey Wingard because most of the complaints seem to be about traffic.

    There used to be a Westbourne Park Residents Association but it was wound up due to lack of interest. Which is what happens when it's all good but if there is no residents association - things can go to hell quickly. There is a residents association formed around Deepdene Avenue development - so you might be able to find someone who is part of that to help you. Community Alliance of South Australia may also be able to help.

    If it wasn't past the deadline for comments you can see the plans and make official comment this way.

    To download the plans and see how to have your say
    For a publically notified development which this is.
    Go to https://plan.sa.gov.au/
    Click on "have your say" at the top.
    Click on "Notified Developments" middle of left side menu
    (notice one of the options is "how to have your say")
    Click on current public notifications
    Click on see what's on notice (because the click before didn't take you where it said it would).
    Type "Mitcham" in the search - to see all public notifications in the Mitcham Council area

    And the Hungry Jacks is missing because it's passed the deadline for comments.

    But if you want a look at something similar - you can click on the one for Hawthorndene - that Mitcham Council has put in a development application for a small sports club change rooms and public toilets. It also has a link to the planning policy (rules) for that area.

    If you want to see where the development application is in the assessment stage you can still go to the development application register - but there will not be as many documents to look at, the plans have been taken down.

    TLDR - short cut
    https://plan.sa.gov.au/development_application_register#view-21001275-DAP

    how to get there step by step.

    Go to Plan.sa.gov.au
    click on development applications

    click on "track and pay an application" - cos that's really intuitive when it's not your application or you've already paid.

    Click on development application register.
    click on reference number

    In the Application Id field on the right, put in 21001275

    find the search box at the bottom and click on that.

    Wait patiently....

    It comes up with one search result. And you have to click on the number you just entered to see the details. Why it can't go straight there when there is only one result from an id search - I don't know. You can also enter the street name and number and suburb - leave out any street types eg road or avenue or parkway because if you don't abbreviate exactly the same way the system does - you get no result. If you leave it out, it gets what you want. eg put "429 Goodwood" not "429 Goodwood Road"

    You can then click on the different tabs... Assessment or Documents.

    There is a document that suggests that they are planning to modify the access in some way - but I can't tell from the document if it's access on to Goodwood Road or Angas St.

    And to see what the planning rules are for the site - I hate how the Coreflute they put up does not list the ways this development does not comply...

    you go to
    https://sappa.plan.sa.gov.au/

    Type in 429 Goodwood and click on the link that pops up.
    you can explore with the pop up box or close it (what I do).

    I click on "street map" at the top and change that to "hybrid" and adjust the "visibility" slider so that the street map and the satellite map are both easy to see.

    Then I click on planning zones and overlays (left menu)
    You get a new red box that comes up.

    These are the rules for this site. Watch out for things like "historic overlay" or "State Heritage Area Overlay" because those add some rules that are elsewhere on the plan.sa.gov.au website - good luck finding them. Hint "Statutory instruments".

    the "overlays" override what is in the zone.

    429 Goodwood is zoned Business Neighbourhood. Which means most of the complaints I've seen on Planning Alerts won't be relevant.

    Future Road Widening overlay is a bit scary - I guess that means that you can't build too close to the footpath/street of Goodwood Road in case they decide to build more lanes.

    Click on policies for a development at this address
    and it pops up nothing relevant to a business zone. Swimming pool or spa anyone?

    This system is still very flakey so anything like this needs to be emailed in as a problem to
    AGDfeedback@sa.gov.au

    which is the Attorney General's email address. You can cc
    Vickie Chapman for good measure. Just in case the others are being filtered straight to the bin.

    Restaurant and fast food outlet do not come up when you try searching for the development type.

    Closest I get is "Shop" or "Function Centre".
    The application is described as
    Construct shop (restaurant with drive-through facility), advertisements and fencing (acoustic wall)

    So I will ask for the rules for "Shop". There is a huge difference between a haberdashery shop, and a fast food shop with a drive through.

    And then it is either "Performance Assessed" or "Impact Assessed" - I can't tell you'd have to ask Mitcham Council assuming they are doing the planning assessment.

    So no Historic Area Overlay or Character Zone or State Heritage.

    What looks interesting is "Business Neighbourhood Zone", Design in Urban areas, Transport, Access and Parking and maybe "interface between Land uses" if it adjoins a residential historic character area (I think it does ie most of Westbourne Park).

    So it is supposed to be low rise unless it is not near an adjoining residential zone. But is allowed to be 8m high and two Levels - tho the instructions are a little bit ambigous. Could be 3 levels and 12m high or triple whatever the planning rule limits are (eg Seawall apartments).

    Notice how many rules come up that aren't relevant. eg "building work on railway land"

    DTS means deemed to satisfy (it meets all the rules - which 429 Goodwood does not)

    "Traffic Generating Development"
    looks like it breaks most of those rules potentially.
    To get around these rules they may put access off Angas St because it is a councl matinaed road not a state maintained road.

    Urban design - it is supposed to contribute positively to the character of the locality.
    I don't think a Hungry Jacks can do that. But it's possibly not any uglier than the old hardware store or the service station.

    This is the rule for car park provision
    Premises with a dine-in and drive-through take-away service - (must provide) 0.3 spaces per seat plus a drive through queue capacity of 10 vehicles measured from the pick-up point.

    Interesting that there is no equivalent parking requirement for bicycles... They might have to provide 2 if we're lucky. "1 space for every 300m2 of gross leasable floor area plus 1 space for every 600m2 of gross leasable floor area for customers."

    The new planning code for South Australia is a disaster. Feel free to use the emails for feedback to let the planning people (Vickie Chapman) know how you feel.

    Friendly Jordies on youtube has a lot to say about the NSW system and we copied that.

56. Council Agenda for CAP meeting that includes the Hungry Jacks at 429 Goodwood Road.

    They are recommending conditional approval. The agenda contains the conditions and the plans.

    https://www.mitchamcouncil.sa.gov.au/build-and-develop/council-assessment-panel

    The more of you that show up to the meeting the better.

    After that you can maybe go to the ERD court and object there - but that's expensive. Or see my other comment for details about who else you can contact.

    The new planning system as best I can tell only allows for appeals by the developer if they get refused.

57. The new State government planning laws place very little credence to the concerns of locals and impacted stakeholders. They were passed with the support of both major parties. Please contact your local MP and candidates for the next election to express your dismay at these box ticking planning laws

58. Colonel Light gardens is a heritage listed suburb and only a stone’s throw from the Goodwood Road / Angas Rd Intersection in Westbourne Park where this development has been proposed. The houses in Westbourne Park and particularly those on Angas Rd also exemplify the same character, quality and charm of those that merited Colonel Light Gardens it’s heritage listed status. This status is put in place to ensure that future developments adhere to aesthetic and social elements within a coherent plan.

    This two-storey high-volume drive-through development will certainly not fit in with the character zoning of the surrounding suburbs. It will also most definitely (and unfairly) depreciate the monetary value of housing within the area by adding further traffic congestion to what is already a dangerous intersection with high traffic flows. It is disheartening that no community stakeholder engagement or consultation has taken place with respect to this proposed development.

59. I have heard there are 160 submissions on this development application - mostly traffic concerns. CAP meeting is tonight Thurs 7th Oct.

    The planning code is very limited in how "Shops" are assessed. Businesses that create a lot of traffic and litter - should be assessed against separate criteria and zoned differently.
    A second hand book store for instance - does not create nearly the same amount of disturbance. And two stories with a giant acoustic wall on the boundary next to a home in a predominantly residential area will devalue the nearby homes and does not fit in the scale of the adjacent neighbourhood.

60. This proposal MUST NOT go ahead. As a rate payer in the area, I do not consent or want any more fast food outlets in the area. Encourage small businesses, NOT corporate giants $$$$ to take over the suburbs. If this stupid proposal goes ahead, then we all know money talks.
    Enough is enough.

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