4A Bayley Street Dianella WA 6059

Commercial - Change of Use to Medical Centre and Alterations

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We found this application for you on the planning authority's website ago. It was received by them earlier.

(Source: City of Stirling, reference DA22/1394)

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  1. Nicole Edwards commented

    There is already limited parking at this complex with the businesses that are there. What draws customers to the cafe, newsagency, pharmacy, convenience store and bottle shop is the ability to quickly pop in and out. The complex is a fantastic, friendly neighbourhood complex that services a lot of foot traffic and turns around many regular customers due to its accessibility for all. A larger medical centre will only take up all the bays for longer periods of times which will significantly impact business and the community (myself) which frequent it on a daily, often multiple times a day, basis. There is a large medical centre only a short distance down the road which I have never struggled for available appointments which begs the question of the necessity of this proposal.
    Further to this, the impact of more traffic on the street and the area will impact on the large number of young families which access the area with children in prams, on scooters, bikes etc as the limited space will make the area unsafe

  2. Pat commented

    I have lived in this area for 55 years. There are already plenty of medical centres in close proximity. We have such a great community in our local area. I feel this would invite more of the riff raff that have been frequenting the area more recently. I would be really annoyed if this goes ahead. Please reconsider!

  3. Ali commented

    I’m a long term resident of Dianella. I really oppose to this - this definitely does not have my vote. Bad move especially since there is a full medical centre not even 5 minutes away.

  4. David R commented

    I fully concur with the previous comments made. The current mix of shops is a rare find in our area. In particular the coffee shop has totally rejuvenated the strip and added vibrancy and customers to the neighbouring traders. Parking is currently a significant issue with the current mix of retailers and service providers. A medical centre with many doctors and possibly allied professionals, will only add to the often full to capacity parking of both the street and front shop parking available.
    In my opinion it will also change the unique neighbourhood vibe that has developed as a meeting place for locals since Aposto coffee shop opened.
    I am totally opposed to the medical centre application for the above reasons stated.

  5. Rod commented

    The development of a new medical complex in this small shopping precinct with currently barely adequate parking spaces to service the existing businesses will no doubt result in parking chaos within the the shopping centre precinct. Any overflow will likely have a detrimental impact on the surrounding residential streets that will detract from the relatively peaceful ambience that occupants of the local residences currently enjoy.

  6. Greg Dean commented

    I am a long term resident who frequents the complex on a daily basis.
    The carpark is tight and barely copes with very short term visiting clientele currently.
    Approving this would do nothing but turn Bayley Street into a carpark.
    It is endearing for our community to still enjoy a relationship with its local newsagent.
    Another medical centre is NOT required in our area.

  7. Alex commented

    I work at one of the local businesses and although I don’t live in the neighborhood I am there daily, considering this I want to share my objections to the proposed plans.

    I have daily insight to how the locals feel about the proposed plans. Current feedback from the locals is querying where are they going to park if the medical center is approved and that it will impact them stopping if it proves to be too difficult. Also the neighbours are concerned with the overflow of traffic and parking in the street.

    It would be such a shame to have the medical centre approved and take away the local services and community feel. Especially when there are medical centres already located close by in more appropriate settings with adequate parking.

  8. Giulia Mazza commented

    As a resident of the area and frequent visitor to this address, it is already hard enough finding parking with three small children to visit the complex without the addition of a medical centre and the foot and road traffic that comes with this.

    The area is already saturated with medical centres and the addition of such a commercial enterprise would damage the calm, family friendly and slow paced community feel of the complex.

  9. Jeremy McCalman commented

    As a home owner opposite these shops I don't believe there is adequate parking for a medical center. Currently as the shops are now we frequently have people parking in front of our house and sometimes blocking the driveway. This doesn't include the cars from the employees of the shops that fill the street daily.

    A medical center seems excessive to the needs of the community.

  10. Brent Andrew Armanasco commented

    As a regular patron of the shops in this strip I totally oppose this development. The community feel of the village will be lost. As a consequence we have already lost the deli and I believe the Newsagency will close down as well in the new year. As a resident of the area I believe there is no need for yet another medical centre as there is a large one about 5 minutes away and with another one opening in the Dianella Plaza SC at the end of this year. A bad idea

  11. David R commented

    I received an email response from the City of Stirling regarding my comments and objection made 6 days ago. I have responded directly to the email but fell its prudent to make my thoughts public. Below is my response:

    Thank you for your response to my objection of the proposed medical centre application. I understand the criteria on which the council makes its determination.

    The fact that the applicant is proposing 5 new car parking bays does not address my concerns about the limited parking available, both in front of the shops and street parking. The 5 proposed bays at the rear of the stores will only cover the medical personal who will need parking to attend their place of business.

    The nature of a medical practice will result in patients arriving early for their appointment whilst the doctors are seeing other patients. This has a multiplier affect requiring many more bays to service the area. For example, if there are 5 doctors practicing that would result in say 10 bays being occupied by patients plus the further 5 bays provided by the applicant for staff.

    Also, can you please advise if a pathology practice is being proposed. If so this would add further chaos to the parking as people often go for blood tests etc early morning and as such have to wait around.

    You have also raised the matter of advertising of the application. I must say that I find it unusual that there is not a public notice in the area regarding the application. I only found out by accident that there is an application lodged and comments were being sought. I would suspect that the council will receive a far greater number of comments if a public notice was posted at the 4A Bayley St site.

    I trust that the council will seriously consider the objections and disallowed the current application.

  12. ML commented

    I too am a local resident in the street.
    There was is no way that the areas parking can support such a complex. The current parking is pushed to extreme with the current setup causing visitors now parking illegally on verges, usually opposite each other on both sides of the street and there have already been near misses. There are already numerous medical centres in close proximity and the need for an additional one is ridiculous. There is a large amount of vacant land where the Dianella plaza is located and sufficient parking there to accommodate such a thing if necessary.

    It would ruin the area, my family is certainly not in favour and would not use the complex.

    In addition to the above, the building of the complex and parking required for tradies and the noise associated with it would be disruptive for local residents.

  13. Lisa commented

    This carpark already struggles to cope with the current visitor rate during peak times. The expansion of the medical center will only exacerbate this situation given the length of time patients and staff will be requiring parking. Vehicles are often already parked on the street which is dangerous and annoying for residents. As a local of many years I do utilize a number of the shops in the complex and I have to say the cafe has been a wonderful addition creating a real community feel in the area. However I would hate to see the current parking situation be further overwhelmed by the addition of an expanded medical centre, which would also affect the patients turning up for medical appointments.

  14. Paul Harding commented

    Parking would be a big issue. It's busy enough already. This would be better suited to a different location with better access.

  15. Yasmine Phillips commented

    This is a great little complex, which is already so popular. There is simply not enough parking to further expand this precinct. On a busy day, many cars are already parking out on the street and it’s already very crowded at times. Adding to this will only exacerbate the problem, making it more of a hazard.

  16. Natalee Cunningham commented

    We have lived in the area for over 10 years. My husband and I on a daily basis attend our local shops for various different things. Parking has always been an issue here however generally a spot will come up as people are popping in and out.
    This proposal for a medical centre is crazy if you apply common sense to this. There is a total of 26 parking spaces and 1 disabled parking space within the complex which currently services 7 businesses and 1 vacant business. Basic maths says each business has 3.7 spaces each at any given time. To put a medical centre in this already small complex is poor planning by the City of Stirling. There is limited parking at the back of these businesses as Lotus Lane runs behind which has residential houses so I am sure some staff working in this centre take up some of the spaces that are at a premium already. A medical centre would have reception staff, doctors (2,3,4 not sure how many are planned) and nurses. Where are all these cars expected to park their cars? Where are all the patients who would not be "popping in" to the shopping centre park?
    This whole proposal seems very nonsensical. There are many free standing medical centres in the immediate vicinity and to clog up an existing and thriving community shopping centre is going to devalue the area. Businesses who we actively support will more than likely not be able to sustain business as people will not be able to park and we just go somewhere else. I also suspect there will be tension within the centre as people desperately try and get a parking space.
    If a medical centre was to open up here where would an ambulance park if a patient needs to be conveyed to hospital?
    The City of Stirling need to LISTEN to local residence as without them none of these businesses would exist. We have a wonderful community at the current shopping centre and my children have had many positive interactions with businesses and customers over the years.
    A medical centre will DESTROY this vibrant community.

  17. Lesley Shore commented

    The proposed Bayley Street Medical Centre is unnecessary and inappropriate. There are already numerous Medical Centres already operating in close proximity. Any business requiring extra parking and increasing the traffic in this residential street would create the increased possibility of accidents. Bayley Street already services the overflow from the available car bays and has to cope with truck deliveries, council watering and refuse collection plus normal daily traffic flow. More would be too much!

  18. Dave, Audrey & Evie commented

    It would be such a shame to spoil this small and friendly precinct by the addition of a medical centre that is definitely not essential . Parking is difficult enough as it is and a medical centre will add chaos that the locals do not want. If this goes through it deserves further investigation and as many appeals as necessary to get it thrown out.

  19. Sarah commented

    Please don't ruin a perfect little corner shop strip. I have lived in this area for 45 years. Grew up a few streets away and now live with my own family a few streets away. I have frequented these shops in all their variations during that time and appreciated their simplicity. Bigger is not always better. The residents surrounding these shops deserve to enjoy their homes without the disturbance that increased traffic would cause. It always annoys me that people who don't live in the area get to make decisions for those that do. For once listen to those who will have to live with your decisions.

  20. Brody Munyard commented

    This is not the right area for a medical center. Along with there being no parking to facilitate a medical center, it is also not wanted by the local community nor required due to the location of other large medical centers nearby. Majority of the locals oppose this so hopefully the rate payers will be listened to. Additional traffic to the area will create a more dangerous place for local families and kids that also ride their bikes, walk and take their prams to the location.
    This medical center would do better in a less suburban area with more parking and residents that would embrace the proposal.
    This is not the right addition for Bayley street.

  21. Matt commented

    This is not a change for the better, the bayley street shops have the opportunity to improve however the addition of a medical center will only destroy what has been created to make this a place for residents of the area to come and enjoy picking up the paper, grabbing a coffee or sitting down for a meal with friends and family. This decision would increase traffic making it a less safe and desirable place for families and dogs attending the close by cafe.

  22. Matt commented

    This is not a change for the better, the bayley street shops have the opportunity to improve however the addition of a medical center will only destroy what has been created to make this a place for residents of the area to come and enjoy picking up the paper, grabbing a coffee or sitting down for a meal with friends and family. This decision would increase traffic making it a less safe and desirable place for families and dogs attending the close by cafe.

  23. Chris Farley commented

    This proposed medical centre cannot be allowed to proceed. My local community is already suffering the consequences as the convenience store has recently been forced to close. Where do we go now within walking distance for milk, bread and other everyday necessities? The Bayley Street parade of shops is a rare gem, much loved by us locals, and this is now threatened.

    We already have a number of medical centres in close proximity. Quite simply any development along these lines is a nonsense. The added pressure in the car park (staff and services to the centre alone will presumably require a dozen bays), the increase in traffic and the volume of vehicular journeys in the neighbourhood will add to road safety issues and obviously hamper the local businesses serving the community. This proposal cannot be allowed to proceed.

  24. Melanie Robertson commented

    Our family frequents Bayley st for the current amenities daily. What it doesn’t need is another medical centre in the suburbs clogging up the carpark and roads. Surely there is more than enough medical centres in the area on main roads in close proximity that we can leave this smaller centre intact!

  25. Melanie Robertson commented

    Our family frequents Bayley st for the current amenities daily. What it doesn’t need is another medical centre in the suburbs clogging up the carpark and roads. Surely there is more than enough medical centres in the area on main roads in close proximity that we can leave this smaller centre intact!

  26. Dina M commented

    Please don’t turn our quiet, peaceful suburb into a busy zone.
    There are limited parking bays on bayley st, no direct public transport access aside from Alexander dr before homer st bus stop 12802 approx 250m away from the proposed location which is too far of a walk for those with limited mobility.
    The resulting increase in buses stopping at stop 12802 and the increase in car traffic from medical centre patients is likely to create further congestion at the Homer st/Alexander dr intersection, which is already a pain to enter and exit at existing traffic levels with limited visibility.
    There are already 3 medical centres on Grand Promenade/Walter rd, within 2km from the proposed site. I understand the need for more appointments with an ageing population. but as it is, the surrounding infrastructure will not cope and this site is just not suitable.

  27. Emma Scicluna commented

    As a local resident, who frequents the cafe by foot and often struggles to drive down Bayley Street daily to get to work given the amount of cars already present, a medical centre seems ill-advised. Working in a health care setting myself, I am fully aware of the fast-paced nature of continuous patient arrivals and turnover within a day. The strip would become dangerous for pedestrians (especially the elderly or those with children) and more challenging for local residents to enter their own driveways. Emergency services access and more ACROD bays (which are larger by default) would be required, and would discourage patrons from attending the other businesses. Furthermore, a new medical centre that has not even opened yet in Dianella Plaza is set to provide more services of this nature to the community, less than a 5 minute drive away. Listen to your rate payers and the people who's lives and livelihoods will be affected by this decision.

  28. Brian commented

    I've been a local resident for over 20 years. This is a terrible idea.
    We already have limited parking and heavy through traffic thanks to the liquor store. This is the last thing the area needs.
    There are plenty of other medical centres locally in my opinion, no need for another.
    Our community does not need the extra disruption this development will bring.
    Opposed.

  29. Brodie Scicluna commented

    As someone who frequents the cafe down Bayley St, accessing the parking lot can already be quite difficult due to its popularity. Adding further traffic from a medical centre will negatively affect tue current businesses present and discourage patrons. Considering there are a variety of other medical practices within close proximity, I believe this will adversely affect residents nearby, as well as the current patrons and business owners of Bayley Street.

  30. Ruth Krasnostein commented

    I am a rate payer in the City of Stirling and have lived close to Bayley St shops for over 45 years. There has often been little parking outside the shops when I’ve been there. I more often than not, have taken the last bay. Should you convert shops to a medical centre which brings more staff and more visitors to the use these bays you are going to create congestion. Are you enduring that visitors to the other existing shops will not lose their parking. My objection to this development is that there simply is not sufficient parking area to adequately cope with the influx a medical centre will bring. Also there are many other medical centres extremely close by ensuring everyone has sufficient medical coverage and a new one is unnecessary unless you supply sufficient parking for all not just the new centre.

  31. Sajni L commented

    This really would be a disservice to the existing businesses and locals surrounding the area. There is already a Drs clinic and a pharmacy in the location, so why there should be a large clinic is beyond me especially when there are multiple other clinics within a couple minutes drive. It is a very small area and parking would definitely be an issue. Unless the medical clinic is willing to provide for far more than 5 additional parking spaces, this will not be a beneficial move for this group of shops or surrounding community.

  32. Anne Disilvio commented

    What bad use of a great, much needed community local. There are so many doctors surgeries in the Dianella area it’s unnecessary and not what the locals need or want. This is a great opportunity missed if this goes ahead. How about asking the locals what we want.

  33. Louise commented

    As a local resident who visits the Bayley street strip regularly I can tell you now that I and many others will be very opposed to this idea. It is an only a small complex of amenities and I think that’s what draws many of the locals to it.

    I know myself personally will chose to go there rather somewhere else saving me the stress and hassles you face in busier places so Introducing a larger medical centre is only going to ruin the relaxing atmosphere that most people go there for. Not to mention the fact that there is already insufficient parking now and many other medical centres in very close proximity of this location.

    Aposto cafe have done such a fabulous job in bringing the site back to life and I know that a lot of locals enjoy popping in for coffee, food, catch-ups because it isn’t Hectic, bringing a large medical centre with a large clientele is only going to ruin the experience.

  34. Carla Shearman commented

    The development application to establish a medical centre at the Bayley Street shopping strip in Dianella is madness. This vibrant neighbourhood hub already struggles in terms of parking and the addition of a medical centre will make the situation significantly worse. The majority of the businesses including Aposto Cafe, a pharmacy, liquor store and newsagent are servicing people who come in and out fairly quickly. A medical centre will see people parking for long periods of time which will negatively impact these small businesses that have worked hard and built loyal clientele. There is already a GP clinic operating at the Bayley Street location and several other larger medical centres and GP Practices operating nearby so how can the proponent justify that another medical centre is necessary? I live in Wordsworth Street and we have noticed a steep increase in 'rat run' traffic over the past few years. I have no doubt that a Medical Centre at Bayley Street will increase local traffic impacting not only the people who live there but residents like us in surrounding streets. A lot of elderly people frequent the Bayley Street strip as they like the convenience of a local pharmacy, newsagent and cafe. Many of them are frail and have mobility issues and I believe the increased traffic and parking chaos that would be generated by a medical centre poses a potential safety risk. Even though a medical centre may be an approved use under the town planning scheme, in this case it is totally inappropriate given the size and restraints of the existing centre and therefore should be rejected.

  35. Jaimi commented

    As a local resident I strongly oppose this change. The local shops are a vibrant part of our community and a rare find in the area.

    We are surrounded by other medical centres in very close proximity which are more easily accessible by public transport and with parking.

    There’s also the issue of traffic in the area which already gets extremely busy with cars coming off Alexander drive. It simply isn’t the right location for a medical centre.

  36. Nicole Flynn commented

    Why ? Why ?
    We already have medical centers in close proximity.
    Please don’t ruin what is already a great small business community
    Please reconsider 😞

  37. Gary. C commented

    It has come to my attention that there are plans for a medical centre on Bayley Street Dianella which is our local shops.

    I live up the road from Bayley Street Dianella and attend on a daily basis the small row of shops located here.

    As a local rate payer I found out about this proposal for the medical centre but not via the City of Stirling. From my experience local shire councils seek public comment on whether the local residents support such proposals.

    This is a proposal for a medical centre which is quite significant in the area and the City of Stirling has failed to contact the local residents and request feedback and support of this medical centre. There appears no transparency by the City of Stirling and there has been no consultation with the local residents.

    On a regular basis I run along Bayley Street at the front of the chemist and at the laneway behind the chemist and other shops and regularly find used syringes around the area.

    On top of that there is not enough parking for local residents to utilise the existing shops so where do the locals park if taken over by a medical centre?

    There is already enough medical centres in the area so why approve another one and further without consultation of the local residents?

    If the City of Stirling are transparent it might be an idea to give the opportunity to the locals to comment on the medical centre which will have little support.

    I am not happy that the City of Stirling appear to be underhanded and have failed to notify the local residents about the proposal of this medical centre as I would not have supported another medical centre in the area. This will now cause more chaos with the parking and encourage more undesirables to come to the area.

    My gripe is the failure of City of Stirling failing to advise the local community of this. Is there anything else going on ???

  38. Arnah commented

    The proposed change of use will directly impact our family business. I trust that this will be considered when making your decision.

    My parents established their cafe just before Covid and with such wonderful community support they survived when many hospitality businesses didn’t. The business has grown and revived the strip with the continued patronage of many locals. Our business is heavily based on takeaway trade and what is now mostly (I’ll address this below) convenient to drop in and out to pick up their morning coffee, lunch or a quick caffeine fix and treats, would become impossible as the medical center would monopolizethe parking facilities.

    The argument that it will bring more business is not true, it will be counterintuitive and take away our loyal customer’s opportunity to pop into our business and the other retailers.

    If you are unaware, the current parking is already under pressure and in high demand. We have already had councillors and City of Stirling staff out to see the situation first hand, it seems amiss for town planners to exacerbate the problem by adding a high traffic and long stay parking situations to the problem. I can share videos of the already congested carpark that I have recorded on a regular basis.

    We service a wide demographic, many who will be impacted by the consequences of high traffic should this plan go ahead. What has become a hub for locals to pick up essentials, will be something they maybe inclined to then pass by. Additionally, the safety risk with the increased traffic, particularly the more vulnerable including older generation and children. There simply isn’t the infrastructure in place to allow for such a business in a suburban area like Bayley Street shops.

    I have already been privy to the response that the development will include five parking bays on site for staff. Doing the simple math this won’t even cover the number of bays for staff required to operate. In the proposed plan there are three doctors, pathology collection in addition to the nursing and reception staff.

    If the proposed change of use is approved the council will be prioritizing parking spaces for the new business at the detriment of other businesses on the strip.

    I would also like it noted on record. when I called to enquire about the proposal, I was asked how I was informed about the application and that we would be informed by the if town planners decided it was relevant. Considering we are direct neighbours and rate payers what how it be more relevant? Did you think we would not do our due diligence, especially when the new owner posted a sign on their window saying ‘exciting new business’ ironically there was no notification sign of their proposed change of use application.

    We have been listening to our customers , your rate payers, and they strongly oppose this proposed change. I have yet to hear anyone excited by this plan.

    Please keep the character of Bayley street alive, please don’t destroy what has recently been revived.

    Don’t disappoint us and take away what our family and the local community have created by approving this application we strongly oppose.

  39. Ian Rose commented

    I am against the proposed change of use. There is no need for a medical centre in this location. It will change the feel of the community shopping strip. Even with the extra car bays there will be insufficent for the medical centre and therefore negatively impact on the existing businesses, local residents and customers.

  40. Sharon Friedman commented

    Absolutely appalled at the idea of ANOTHER medical centre in the neighbourhood.
    This little strip of shops in a residential area is unique to the area and as ratepayer, we do not believe it is necessary. A medical centre will attract more traffic, more people and will destroy the ambience of this strip
    Please don’t destroy this corner! It’s suburbia
    Sharon and Neville F

  41. Jonathon Silbert commented

    I strongly object to the proposed medical centre at Bayley Street and do not believe it is appropriate for this highly parking constrained shop strip.

    Over the last few years this community shop strip has been revitalised since the opening of the Aposto Cafe. This cafe, along with many of the existing adjoining businesses, rely on the ability of customers to find a parking bay, drop in to make a purchase and leave. Currently there are barely enough parking spaces to service the current customer load for all of the existing shops.

  42. Lisa Nealy commented

    All the comments already made I fully agree. The complex does not need a new medical centre for all the reasons stated. Limited parking, and multiple other medical centres within a 2-5km radius. Also the shopping strip already has a medical practice, just improve that premise and be done with it.

  43. Sarah commented

    With respect to the proposed Medical Complex at 4A Bayley Street, Dianella. I am opposed to the proposed Medical Complex for the following reasons. Firstly, there is a medical centre on Grand Promenade (2 minutes away from Bayley Street, by car). Secondly, there is also a medical centre at Dianella Plaza (4 minutes away from Bayley Street by car). Thirdly, there is simply not enough parking for medical staff and patients alike. This will have an impact on the residents who live directly opposite Bayley Street shops and for those owners of businesses already established at Bayley Street. Bayley Street is mainly a residential area (i.e. not on a main road) and as such additional traffic will adversely impact local residents. As a local resident in the area for over 10 years, we frequent the Bayley Street shops and one of the reasons for doing so is that there are a number of different shops / services available. With the addition of a medical centre this will take away from the diversity of the shops.

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  45. Arnah commented

    Hi Elaine,

    For the record, and perhaps suggest you do some fact checking my parents are rate payers for the City of Stirling, as I am I! I do not live in Dianella but then again neither do you.

    To clarify we aren’t opposed to medical services and support the current doctor, pharmacy or psychiatrist - we are opposing a planned medical centre.

    There simply isn’t enough infrastructure to support a business like this - different if it were on a major road. All the local residents I have spoken to are opposed to the idea as there are plenty in of medical cemtres nearby in more appropriate settings.

    If you had patronized our business you would know we do not serve junk food. We support a balanced diet.

  46. Judith Clark commented

    There is a medical centre that has already been approved for the nearby Dianella Shopping Centre.
    It makes more sense to have it there as there is lots of parking options available as well as public transport that services the centre from two major roads.

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  48. Fiona commented

    I strongly oppose this application, the reasons are in all the above comments. As someone who frequents the strip on a daily basis, I don’t believe a medical centre is appropriate with the layout.

  49. Brody commented

    Elaine you seem to have a personal issue with the aposto family and since you don’t live in the area, this really isn’t any of your concern as the proposed changes will not impact you.
    I do not have any ties to the aposto family or business and still think having a large medical facility in this location is detrimental to the community vibe we have going on at the Bayley street shops. Not to mention the lack of parking and additional traffic that has been mentioned in other posts.
    Majority of the locals who are rate payers and have lived in the area for years and still do… will also agree that the proposed medical facility is not wanted or appropriate for this location.
    And the menu of the cafe has absolutely nothing to do with this so to bring that up is actually laughable. Let us eat our cakes LOL.

  50. Elaine commented

    Brody have you seen the 2022 Cancer Council WA advertisement to inform and educate people like you and the cafe patrons?

    It is a male sitting in a cafe eating a chocolate muffin (reduce the junk food/food high in sugar, salt and toxic fat) and reduce your cancer risk. It is for preventative health care Brody.

    I have submitted my comments on behalf of my Dianella neighbours (as I was a resident living in Dianella for 35 years).

    My Dianella neighbours are elderly and not able to voice an opinion on an online platform. They need a GP clinic on Bayley Street with a pharmacy directly next door as these essential services are keeping them alive and well.

    Your ignorance and your lack of care and compassion is very disappointing for the ageing community.

    It is perplexing that the Aposto family did not count the number of parking bays on Bayley Street prior to opening their family business. Perplexing indeed.

    My comments are a voice for my elderly Dianella neighbours as they feel very safe and comfortable attending a GP clinic with a pharmacy directly next door on Bayley Street.

    They need these services to continue as their lives depend on it. These essential medical services (GP Clinic & Pharmacy working closely together) are saving lives Brody. Nothing to laugh out loud about at all Brody.

  51. Helen Margaria (please only post my christian name) commented

    This development is an overkill in an area that is already serviced by many Medical Practices with adjoining Pharmacies, I am a rate payer and lived in the area for 30 years and have used this parade of shops on a regular basis all these years. In particular there are other businesses of worth such as the Hairdresser, the Newsagent, the Liquor Store, Psychiatrist. Pharmacist and Aposto.
    The need for a large medical practice and laboratory is going to impact on all the businesses in terms of their value to the community and in particular in relation to access and parking for not only these businesses but indeed the local residences.
    There have been numerous food outlets where Aposto now resides and it is a terrific addition for local users who desire a family friendly and small cafe that is so much better than a shopping centre experience. They are opened for limited hours whereas a medical centre will bring loads more traffic and parking issues to all concerned during business hours and possibly after hours. This development is unnecessary and will cause considerable problems related to parking access as this site size is not conducive to such a large a large group of medicos and compared to other similar larger practices that have much more parking available for patients and staff.
    Please respect the other businesses this will impact on besides Aposto and thus totally opposed to this developement!

    Helen M

  52. Stephen Agar commented

    I am strongly opposed to this proposal as someone who lives on the corner of Bayley and Crawford, and is a City of Stirling rate payer.

    The parking would be entirely insufficient for such a development and the location being a quiet suburb street is also not appropriate for such a medical centre.

    The increased traffic would be a hazard, unwelcome and unmanageable.

    The small strip of shops there currently is suitable for the available parking and services the needs of the local community. There is no need for a medical centre as there is another just around the corner in a more suitable location which always has available appointments.

    The proposed medical centre would take over this one spot for locals in this small corner of Dianella to meet up and engage with their community, and replace it with something the area doesn't need and cannot support.

    Please do not approve this development it would be a huge negative for the area.

  53. Stephen Agar commented

    Elaine

    I felt the need to comment again after reading your rude and blatantly false comments

    I am not as you falsely claim a friend of the owners of Aposto, biased or with a conflict of interest. I live 200 metres down the road, unlike you who doesn't live in the area at all, that you used to live here is of no relevance when deciding the future development of the area.

    I have provided my full name and address with my comments so this is verifiable.

    The claims myself and almost every other poster has made:
    - That there is insufficient parking.
    - That the locals enjoy it as a local community spot and don't want it to change
    - That there is other medical centres with 2km
    Are all verifiable facts as well.

    Your comments regarding the food served at a cafe are completely irrelevant, entirely incorrect in this instance and beyond ridiculous. That your argument for the approval of the development had to immediately resort to ad hominem attacks and lies says a lot about the weakness of your position.

    It seems you are the one with the clear bias and conflict of interest here, which you haven't disclosed. May I suggest you spend your time discussing how the area you live in is developed instead of mine.

    Also maybe come down and talk to the real locals, there's a reason you are the only one supporting this development and the only one who doesn't live in the area.

    Our opposition to this development is because we love this little community spot and not because of any bias or relationship imagined by you

  54. Elaine commented

    Stephen, clearly it is not worth my time responding to your comments which in my opinion are all hearsay.

    LiveLighter is a campaign by Cancer Council WA and it is strongly promoting community health and well being to reduce the risk of cancer in the general population regardless of the suburb (livelighter.com.au).

    I have added my comments on behalf of the elderly living in Dianella as they are mortified with technology and I am on this platform as an advocate for them.

    Bayley Street is a safe street for them to access health care without heavy traffic like there is on Grand Promenade with a speed limit of 60. The speed limit is 50 on Bayley Street with reduced traffic compared to heavy traffic on Grand Promenade.

    Dignity means a person's life matters no matter where they live Stephen.

    PS. The City of Stirling has access to my full name and address and they also know that prior to 2020/prior to the pandemic I was not living it up in New York like Arnah.

  55. Stephen Agar commented

    Yet you've responded again Elaine and to this point have been the one contributing nothing but hearsay.

    Trying to pretend this is about healthy eating for you, has to be the most disingenuous claim I've ever seen. Again, the food served at the Cafe is completely irrelevant to the issue of whether a new medical centre should be opened. Your focus on disparaging a wonderful Cafe is telling of your real motivation here.

    Yes you're so worried about the elderly and traffic that you're determined to bring the traffic direct to them on Bayley Street.

    Your dignity comment is classic, when have I suggested anything different Elaine? I actually see the elderly people you pretend to represent enjoying the Cafe that you're here to attack.

    PS - You're only an advocate for yourself and your own interests. Arnah lives in our area now and you don't, you don't seem able to grasp what is relevant to the discussion and bringing up that she lived in New York like it's some kind of crime or diminishes her right to an opinion on this proposal is frankly weird and devoid of any logic. It's clearly personal for you and not about the proposed centre at all.

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  57. Jayson commented

    As a nearby resident and rate payer I oppose the application for change of use. Reasons as follows

    1. Increased traffic. Not ideal for a neighbourhood ‘Street’. Medical centers are predominantly on more accessible ‘Roads’ that are capable for facilitating higher than normal levels of traffic.
    2. Increased demand for parking will likely effect adjoining businesses customers ability to find parking.
    3. Proximity of other medical centers
    4. Detrimental to the community vibe and enjoyment.
    5. Detrimental effect to the value of closely located residential and commercial properties.

    Thanks

  58. Brett commented

    The proposed change in land use, can only assume the proposed Medical Centre will dominate the allotted complex, or completely replace the existing centre.

    Based on that information and the traffic flow it will generate to the local area compared to what it is currently - a small, local, vibrant community -with businesses like the Cafe having a large positive impact on local amenity - adding a Medical Centre is simply inappropriate.
    I vehemently reject the proposal.

    There are better, more suitable locations for this type of land use, that are closer to transport nodes, regional centres (land at Dianella Plaza for example) and main arterial roads in the local vicinity - not to mention there are already multiple centres just like this very close to the proposed location.

  59. Cornelius commented

    Dianella is an area with an aging population and another medical centre would be a bonus for many. The medical centre would probably provide some extra customers for the business's already there.

  60. Mal commented

    I have only just heard about the medical centre proposal for Bayley St and I am opposed to it.

    I am a resident of the immediate area and often attend these shops to grab a coffee, a lotto ticket or a bottle of wine.

    There is a community feel to the area and shops that will be ruined by the introduction of a medical centre.

    Apart from the issue of parking, (which has already been mentioned) there are medical centres already in the area which are better positioned.

    If, like one writer has suggested the speed limit of grand prom poses a risk to the public using one of these medical centres, then the council should support a traffic controlled pedestrian crossing that would negate that issue.

    I would suggest that the fact that the City of Stirling haven’t been bothered to post anything in the window or alert the residence of this proposal, they already know this isn’t a good idea and wouldn’t have been received well.

  61. Les Emery commented

    I've lived in Bayley St since 1992 and over the years have seen many changes to the shopping strip. For the last few years it has been a vibrant local community hub with a noticeable increase in foot traffic attracted to the diverse range of businesses - cafe, newsagency, deli, hairdresser, liquor store and health services (local GP, pharmacy & counselling). The conversion of the deli and newsagency to a medical centre will impact negatively on this diversity. With the Dianella Family Medical Centre on Grand Promenade and the soon to be opened Dianella Medical Centre within a 1km radius of Bayley St it is difficult to understand the need for another such service in a shopping precinct that is currently highly valued and well patronised by the surrounding local community.

  62. Di commented

    As a patient of the current medical practice for over a decade I would like to let those opposing the supposed new medical centre know that the doctor surgery will go from the right of the pharmacy to the left adjacent to the coffee shop.
    I dont think its fair or appropriate to expect the elderly not to be accommodated even though we have been patients and patrons for decades of all business along the strip. Especially elderly that walks up the road with mobility aids and dont have a drivers licence.
    I would like all those opposed to think of the elderly within the immediate area that frequents the amenities. And yes i am a city of Stirling rates payer

  63. Melanie Robertson commented

    Oh Elaine clearly alot of time on your hands!

  64. Elaine commented

    Thank you for your courage Di, your comment is equal to 1000 comments as you have represented the thousands of elderly patients living in Dianella and in surrounding suburbs. You are courageous and inspiring Di.

  65. Linda commented

    There has been a doctor at Bayley St for many years, and it is the only doctor one can
    get to. There is parking there for more than 20 cars taking in to account Homer St down
    the side. There has never been complains before like this before, what is going on?

  66. Daniel commented

    Having frequented the shopping strip for a couple years, I do not believe the proposed change in use of the units in question to a medical centre would be appropriate. As previous comments have indicated, there are other medical centres nearby with far more appropriate services and facilities to support them. But more importantly, I strongly believe the change in use would negatively affect what is already a strong, local community hub.

  67. Linda Marshall commented

    All this has been done in secret,, without the Chemist knowing etc
    And think these people many of them may go to the Cafe.
    The shops are quite tired looking, and need upgrading. Also some people cannot
    get around and are unable to get to the Plaza or the Grand Prom, there has been
    a Doctor there for many years, why change it now.
    Believe the Parking should be adequate, as there is several spaces by the side of
    the bottle shop in Homer St. The Chemist is willing to spend the money on upgrading
    Not everyone drives a car to the doctor, as it can be walking distance,

  68. Pip commented

    I must say upfront I have not been able to view plans in detail - they don't seem to be on the City of Stirling's website but I am basing comments on what I understand to have been proposed.

    As a patient of Dr Tan (very sad he is shutting up shop!) and local resident, I also oppose this application for a medical centre. While having a GP in the complex is fantastic, and I would have no opposition to another single GP taking over his rooms, a medical 'centre' with significantly more staff and patient traffic can just not be accommodated within the space.

    Aposto have done a great job at bringing the area to life, and we regularly visit Dr Tan's surgery, the pharmacy next door, the newsagent and Aposto (and no, no relation or connection personally to any of them!).

    I agree with all comments raised so far - mostly related to parking. I can see how local residents of the street would be very unhappy about increasing traffic and parking issues, and with so many larger medical centres close by I don't see the need for a large centre here, where it cannot fit easily within the environment.

  69. lin commented

    Aposto Open very early 6am and close 2pm it would be out of many peoples reach
    There is a cafe but for some there isnt because of this.
    The Pharmacy has bought 2 shops so it would be 1 doctor for each shop. plus
    parking. At present if the Doctor goes away holiday etc then there is no Doctor
    This would provide a backup in these situations, Also the Deli was quite tired and
    did not get that much trade. It is difficult to know what business would thrive there
    if any.

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