There is enough traffic congestion and lack of parking in the area as it is!! Lights were promised years ago and are yet to be installed. Building apartments or units will be a disaster
Scotch Parade, Bonbeach, VIC
- Description
- Re-subdivide drainage reserves which exist between Catherine Avenue and Sherwood Avenue and within Bicentennial Park (approx. 3 metre wide) into sixteen (16) lots, three (3) roads/laneways and a reserve (portion within Bicentennial Park) and creation of easements
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Kingston City Council
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KP-2022/669This was created by Kingston City Council to identify this application. You will need this if you talk directly with them or use their website.
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Date sourced
- We found this application on the planning authority's website on , about 3 years ago. It was received by them earlier.
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- 204 people were notified of this application via Planning Alerts email alerts
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Comments
- 62 comments made here on Planning Alerts
Public comments on this application
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This is insane! Am I reading the map/photo right that part of Bicentennial Park is being carved up for accommodation? For goodness sake, give me one good reason why. This is development going nuts. I agree with you, Lauren, the traffic congestion at that corner is dreadful.
We don't need to give up any more GREEN spaces to development ,it is so valuable to the community. The increased traffic will only lead to more congestion at this dangerous corner.
Are you joking !!! Will rate payers get a reduction because you are taking away a section of the park ? First Chelsea hospital and now this !!! Kingston council are criminals and couldn't care less about the community.
Steeling valuable green space from community parkland is not only greedy but negligent. Council has a responsibility to the community, residents and ratepayers. What's going on Kingston Council? Has somebody absconded with the bickie tin and you need to find some quick cash! The Chelsea community has put up with enough demolition, construction, road blockages, road detours apparently in the name of progress. Steeling land from valuable park lands is not progress.
Why don't you carve up some greenspace in Moorabbin and leave Bicentennial Park alone.
Ridiculous proposition. Kingston Council has no right to take away thoughtfully planned green space from ratepayers. We pay your wages and we vote!
Been living in chelsea for 60 years this is totally a money grab and the worst decision i have seen by so called council,i have spoken to a current affair and there waiting for more information on it.
I support all the comments raised.
Kingston council please consider the environmental and the open space concept of Bicentennial park.
Big no to the proposal
I am concerned if this subdivision is for future development. This area is already so congested with limited parking considering all the sporting events and you will destroy what is a fantastic, and possibly the most important site besides our beautiful beach.
Absolutely ridiculous planning in soooo many ways. Councillors should be ashamed of themselves if this gets thru.
Perhaps this issue needs to be aired on 3AW for community input.
I’ve lived here for 26 years and becoming disgusted with the amount of over development in the area. Infrastructure of storm water, parking, traffic congestion, school drop off & pick up is a nightmare .
Please tell us what we, as a Community will gain from this development.
We, as a Community are telling you what we will LOSE.
You have to be kidding!! Absolutely No…
Leave bi-centennial park alone!! There is far to much over development of our suburb as it is 🤬
Taking away community green space for greed is wrong on so many levels. Agree with the traffic issue at the Junction with Thames prom. It's at grid lock at peak times now what will it be like with this building? The park is very busy and is a space used by the whole community for physical and mental health. Don't steal this away from the whole community!
Please don't let this occur. This space, once taken, can never be returned. So many families are growing in spaces with no backyard, front yard or play access. This land belongs to the people, to be used by the people. You only need to look to see all ages, all genders, all races and abilities group, using this space. To take it away is theft and an act of deliberate, vulgar greed. Please keep your hands off our park. Find an alternative to your minuscule living arrangements and additional rates elsewhere. It's not your space to chop up, sell and benefit from. It's ours, to play, stretch and grow.
Please preserve Bicentennial Park and our Green Spaces.
Our locality has been overdeveloped without any adequate improvement or addition to the amenities to support the community.
Our green spaces are precious and in light of climate change issues that we are also facing, this development is an encroachment on the community's right to quiet enjoyment of our surrounds.
This will be yet another terrible money grabbing decision by Kingston Council if they allow this to occur and will serve to open the flood gate for further parkland at Bicentennial to be sold off. Shame on you for trying to sell off much used and needed community green space. As a Kingston council rate payer who actively uses this green space I object to this proposal.
Who on earth thought this was a great idea?? Leave our parks alone! Chelsea and Chelsea Heights are already over developing and the traffic congestion and lack of parking is a real issue as it is!
Are you kidding… scotch parade already too busy. We don’t need anymore units in the area,
This is disgraceful. Our patch is already overdeveloped. We have no parking and residents are living on top of each other! Taking away what green space we have would add to the parking problems, traffic problems and overdevelopment problems!!! This permit should be denied.
I have over the years taken my grandchildren to this park, also their dog. It is by far the best park around as can be seen by the number of people who go there. It is for the people not for housing. How could you even think of it. Surely you get enough from rates with the size of the territory. I suggest spending be reined in not everyone play sports. It is difficult to find the money to pay rates, consider the people who you serve.
I object in the strongest possible terms to any reduction in parklands to ‘development’. Reject this proposal.
This is overdevelopment of a greeen site. It is not required and should be returned to the community with green wedge protection. The junction of Scotch parade and Thames Prom is already a dangerous, overcrowded intersection. Kingston has been hard hit with over-development. Multiple unit complex’s with little or no private space for residents makes areas like Bicentennial Park even more important to the community.
This is a HUGE no from myself and family.
This is a completely unnecessary proposal. Bicentennial park should not be up for any kind of building or subdivision, it is a community place for the area that is well loved and used. Any building on that corner will also create an even more dangerous intersection than it already is. I would suggest fixing the traffic flow, and saying no to developers is how a progressive council would act.
This plan goes against many aspects of Kingston's Public Health and Wellbeing Plan as well as the Climate and Ecological Emergency Response Plan. We need to build up not out, especially not take away more green space.
Absolutely NOT!
Bicentennial Park is not only a landmark but also a vibrant community space.
You will destroy the character of this suburb and families will leave in droves.
This is just wrong! I walk here everyday, to give up green space in our area I'd not right. It's a very park, no matter what time you go through there any people enjoying the park and it's facilities. The traffic is already hectic here and you'd be adding more.
I am interested in how a development can be given the go ahead on public land.
This is a complete mistake and will jeopardise the already heavily congested area.
Come on! I grew up in Chelsea and this area is already disgustingly overdeveloped, leave the parks alone you money grubbing parasites, you’re ruining it!
I strongly object to this development. We need to preserve our beautiful parks and land. There isn’t a need for more property in this particular area. Please don’t go ahead with this.
Please tell me this isn’t true ? I could be wrong but it looks like you want to build u it’s on the skate park ?
Come on ?
This is a terrible suggestion. The Council has just invested considerable sums in providing lights to the skatepark and launched the development with considerable fanfare. This development would require the complete destruction of that facility.
The skatepark provides a hub for all local skaters and scooter riders in the area. It provides something for kids and adults alike to do.
The skatepark is also one of the best in the region — with many, including me, travelling for more than 20 minutes to go there.
Destroying the skatepark would destroy a local a local facility and a local community.
This is an absolutely TERRIBLE idea.
Thames Prom and Scotch Parade cop enough congestion and traffic as it is at peak hour and for sports events, sunny weekends or when the markets are on.
There couldn’t be a worse position for this proposal!
The lack of green and recreational space available to us this day in age is already considerably reduced. Taking away further green space will only do further damage to our beautiful area.
Please reject this application on all accounts!
So sad if this happens I agree with all the comments please reconsider
Kingston City Council,
I object to this proposal. Bonbeach and Chelsea are already overcrowded with multiple townhouses permitted to be built on single blocks.
This will not value add to the area. The Council needs to revisit its values and get in touch with what’s best for the existing community.
Kelly
This is a HUGE mistake! So many of the locals use this green space!
It is used for kids & teenagers letting off steam in the skate park, new parents walking their babies, toddlers learning how to walk and ride bikes, the elderly to meet up with others, cyclists and the list goes on....
It is essential for people to enjoy nature, breath in fresh air, keep our bodies fit and maintain or improve mental health.
I agree with the other residents. Do not create more real estate. This green space is for all of the community. Carving it up for commercial gain by council is not in the spirit or best interest of our environment or the way we use our community. I vote no to this planning request. That corner needs traffic management as it’s dangerous at the best of times. More residential buildings and more traffic and parking as a result will disrupt our green space and ruin a park that is visited by people from all over the state.
What is going on with Kingston council, they approve all this developments without any consideration to the locals. They are making big money 💰 and it’s definitely not going back to the local infrastructure. Look around at damaged footpaths blocked drains wetlands footpath on Edithvale Rd, Pot holes in side streets and I could go on. This is criminal to consider taking part of a park away 😡
I live on the other side of Thames from this and it is an outrage. We were advised 5 years back that we would get traffic lights to make it safe to cross tbe road to the park... has never happened. And now you are grabbing the green space we all use to turn into units or apartments? Unbelievable. Where are these people going to park? Swan Walk is now a goddamn parking lot and you can hardly drive down it. The intersection of Scotch Parade is dangerous enough with no lights...that will be the next thing. What clowns are making these decisions? I sure as he'll did not vote for them.
I strongly oppose this planning proposal. It’s disgraceful the council have even let it get this far. There is no way that amazing green space should be used for development
I formally object to this development as you don't have the surrounding infrastructure in place to support it. There are more appropriate pieces of land in city of Kingston where increases in housing can occur. This die is valued by all local constituents and adds to value as well as contributing to improved well-being of residents. If changes are to be made they need to be to enhance the site and introduce more community value. Don't be a lazy council and seek if land to make a buck. Do your jobs!
Absolutely despicable. Unacceptable. No. Do not do this. I doubt there is any rate payer in the community who supports this.
Bicentennial park is part of why we moved to the area after living in a claustrophobic built up area- now this is being threatened? Since moving here 8 years ago for more space our back yard is now overlooked by 8 separate units in more City of Kingston cash grabs- don't let this happen any more in our beautiful suburb!
Kingston council please don’t let this area be subdivided or redeveloped. Bicentennial park and the adjoining wetlands are a beautiful trademark of our area, enjoyed by so many locals and their families. It was an absolute saviour during the covid lockdowns for members of our community to walk, ride, take their kids and dogs to get some fresh air and enjoy nature. It would cause irreparable damage to the broader community to lose any part of this parkland. Think of future generations to come and how the members of your community live in the area, do you want this to be your legacy? It wouldn’t be done to the Chelsea foreshore or beaches, all the beach and green spaces enrich the lives of those that live and pay the rates to live in the Kingston community area.
Kingston Council,
I would like to formally object to this absurdity that has been allowed to see the light of day.
As a Council, you should be looking at proper traffic management with lights & a pedestrian crossing at this dangerous corner, rather than trying to develop the park into a multi-lot. This is a ridiculous proposal that WILL NOT enhance the local community.
Leave the park alone!
This is heavily utilised green and recreational space.
Repurposing public land is not in any way a rational or acceptable proposal.
The proposal to subdivide the land for housing will dominate the surrounds and not respond positively to the surrounding context.
The loss of the parklands will represent an irreplaceable loss of an essential community facility in a context of increasing population growth.
The proposal contains insufficient information regarding traffic analysis for the future sites, proposals for access, crossovers, kerb ramps etc.
The proposal will respond negatively to the Land Subject to Inundation Overlay.
The proposal will respond negatively to the Heritage Overlay HO34.
The proximity of the proposal to the Transport Road Zone 2 land of the Mornington Peninsula Freeway enlivens the referral authority role of the Head, Transport for Victoria, under the Peninsula Blue v Frankston City Council VCAT precedent rule.
The proposed uses will generate unacceptable acoustic, light, traffic and amenity impacts to the public realm, parkland users, and surrounding residents.
The proposal is on balance, an inappropriate planning outcome and should be refused a permit.
Future uses of the sites will dominate the surrounds and respond negatively to the surrounding context.
Future uses of the sites will generate unacceptable lighting, acoustic and traffic impacts upon the surroundings.
The proposal will negatively impact overland water flows by causing their obstruction and altering the volume, direction, and velocity, and therefore negatively impact surrounding sites.
The proposal causes an unreasonable loss of open space for community enjoyment and recreation and responds negatively to the City of Kingston Planning Scheme.
I urge the Council to refuse the permit.
Council should be increasing Open Space and not decreasing it. Selling Council land for commercial development purposes is not acceptable to the community.
Leave the parkland alone, this park is a community asset. We need all the parkland we can get with the high density housing that hlis being built in the area.
Its our childrens and grand childrens future you are playing with.
With the number of families that have children living in the surrounding suburbs and the increase in modern housing that has no usable land, I believe any proposal that reduces park land and grass areas to be absolutely ridiculous and not in the interest of the local community.
Opposed to this proposal. There is already significant traffic congestion on this corner, the park is beautiful and used by so many. It would be devastating for the park to be broken up and sold off to develop units.
The rate payers own this park not the councillors.
Try asking the owners what they would like.
Not a few people sitting in a office brain storming new ideas.
This is insane! Traffic congestion is out of control now! Please please do not let this go ahead! Save Bicentennial Park
Kingston City Council and their Planning Dept need to be transparent and explain what this is all about straight away.
It is causing a lot of concern in the community, as we do not have all the information. We have the right to know exactly what the subdivision application is intending - for now and the future, with no blurring of the reasons to get this first process through.
Even councillor Georgina Oxley seemingly does not know why this is happening and needs to request more information. This shows a total disrespect of our representatives and your voters and ratepayers
I have been living in Chelsea Heights for over 25 years and I enjoyed going to bicentennial Park as a child/teenager and still to this day as an adult and I think this idea is outrageous, I thought that I would be taking my children to this park and telling them about all the happy memories I had there and your wanting to bulldoze it and put in a living complex. I think this idea is outrageous and a horrible idea, your taking away a massive part of Chelsea Heights if you go ahead with this idea I am 1000000% against this idea 🤬🤬🤬
Wow, beyond belief, our park!!
Trying to make up the dollars by selling everything off it’s disgraceful and we won’t allow it to happen. The people will stand together on this one and you will lose.
Pull your heads in city of Kingston
There is too much subdivision nobody wants this. Everyone wants green spaces please do not take it away. Ultimately I don’t see the value in paying the ridiculous Council rates if ultimately The community input is ignored in preference of bringing in revenue. We live here it is not just a revenue generating opportunity.
Absolutely ridiculous planning in soooo many ways. Councillors should be ashamed of themselves if this gets thru.
Perhaps this issue needs to be aired on 3AW for community input.
I’ve lived here for 26 years and becoming disgusted with the amount of over development in the area. Infrastructure of storm water, parking, traffic congestion, school drop off & pick up is a nightmare .
Please tell us what we, as a Community will gain from this development.
We, as a Community are telling you what we will LOSE.
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This makes zero sense. How can this possibly be considered a good or viable development. The local area is already significantly lacking in parking, let alone the negative impact this would have on the amenity.
Is the proposal to develop and sell of these sub divisions or is it to develop these into low cost or controlled commission housing - like I am concerned it might be.
Not only that, but how can the council provide an objective or independent decision on approvals when they are the ones applying for it and approving it? Even the perception of a conflict of interest is considered a conflict of interest, clearly this meets that criteria.
If this development succeeds, the new owners and occupiers will soon complain to Council about the noise and detrimental conditions to their entitlement to peaceful enjoyment.
The park facilities will then be at peril and most likely removed to avoid litigation from the residents of this proposed development. This will leave way for further development of unused land....the former playground/skatepark. It is suspect and absurd
unless Council anticipates this will be the case and has full intention of
that outcome
There isn't enough information on this planning application for the proposed re-subdivision.
But I am assuming by 'lots' they mean residential lots - and if this is the case it couldn't be a worse decision. Traffic is already congested at the intersection of Thames Prm and Scotch Pde, to add 16 units/townhouses to this corner is ludicrous. Perhaps future planning may include the addition of traffic lights and pedestrian crossings - however it wouldn't be enough to support up to 32 new cars to reside within the immediate area.
Major concerns are:
- placing homes on a busy corner
- increased traffic & congestion
- decrease street parking
- reduced public infrastructure
- reduced public green space
- reduced neighbourhood character
- decrease in public safety (buildings will decrease line of sight in and around parkland and increase blind spots)
This is an outrage . Everyday since I heard I’m praying that it does not happen . How can they even think of doing this . Find another spot !