Difficult to see an existing office block having as of right use as a bottle shop.
And, there are already two bottle shops within 100 metres of the proposed development, plus one around the corner in Wattletree Rd. How many do we really need in such close proximity?
173 Burke Road, Glen Iris VIC 3146
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- Use and development of mixed use (retail and accommodation) development in a Commercial 1 Zone, construct and display of signage, and packaged liquor license associated with part use of the site as a bottle shop (as of right use)
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City of Stonnington
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- We found this application on the planning authority's website on , over 4 years ago. It was received by them earlier.
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Comments
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I believe this is going to be a supermarket. Do we really need one? In the midst of a lovely and very peaceful and charming neighbourhood strip? When there are half a dozen supermarkets nearby? Plus bottle shops? This was designed to put the two local shops out of business?
A development of this scale is destroying the neighbourhood character. There is a great selection of small shops that cater well for the immediate area. There is no need for another bottle shop, no need for a supermarket. There are large supermarkets 5 minutes in every direction. We should be supporting the local businesses, not putting them out of business. In addition, this development will increase the local traffic congestion which is already at breaking point. Our streets are already clogged with cars and residents find it increasingly difficult to park in their own street. When is Council going to stop bowing to developers and start listening to their constituents. We want to retain the character of the neighbour that makes this place what it is. Keep this area liveable.
5 Levels with over 80 apartments is out of character and overbearing for the neighbourhood.
As a local resident I am extremely concerned about the impact this will have on our community - specifically around the level of noise both during construction and afterwards with the delivery trucks.
It is already difficult to find parking in Hope St. If I find Hope St a tight fit in a Hyundai how how will they manage to fit a truck?
Given there is nothing of that density in the area why is this being allowed?
after attending last nights webinar organized by Time and Place developers it appears that there are a lot of unaddressed issues concerning this development. It was not clear who and how many people attended. I am hoping someone from Stonnington was there as many of the communities concerns involved Council streets and the direct impact of traffic movement in the immediate and surrounding area. We were told by T & P that Hope street would loose 15 parking stops to create the enter and exits to this development. If you look at Hope st currently, all street parking is used, so where will these cars park when they loose these 15 spots? Other streets of course. A development this size impacts a vast area. when l hear of traffic studies on Hope street alone it tells me the study is limited, and the view short sighted.
Believe this application is NOT in keeping with Stonnington's Planning Scheme and specifically does NOT "Reflect the particular characteristics and cultural identity of the community"
This site is determined as "The Garden Suburban 5 (GS5) precinct" which is defined by spacious and leafy streetscapes with Interwar or Post-war era and new buildings set in established garden surrounds. Generous, regular front and side setbacks provide space around buildings and allow for canopy trees. Open frontages, or low front fences retain views to gardens and buildings from the street.
This development contravenes the preferred character which is to be achieved by the following design guidelines - see Local Planning Policy Item " 22.23" NEIGHBOURHOOD CHARACTER POLICY - Garden Suburban 1 (GS1) Precinct - Design Guidelines - Another horrific attempt on the part of the Council and a Big Conglomerate (Woolworths) to undermine our Neighbourhoods
I vehemently oppose this Development
Question please ,for a development of this size has planning received a application for traffic lights ? I live opposite and this would negatively impact on my neighbourhood without question.
Hope Street is one of the quietest streets in Glen Iris. The project is going to require a traffic light at the end of this street. This is all you need to know.
Have the council even considered the large freight trucks making deliveries to this
site. Both Burke Rd and Wattletree Rd are very congested already especially
during school hours and peek hours. We certainly don't need more blockage.
I attended the webinar mtg last night. I cannot believe that the City of Stonnington is so inept and greedy not to see how this monstrous development would benefit the area around Central Park. The traffic is already busting with congestion, and the side streets cannot handle anymore, so to have this development is absurd. I also find it a waste both economically and environmentally of a building that has its own appeal to be destroyed. I would not object to a smaller supermarket for the locals designed within that building, but to add 4-5 levels and and 90 apts is ridiculous and we lose all the appeal of our local community. There is already 4-5 new apt complexes on Burke Rd South of Wattletree. Do we really need anymore? Also, what will the disruption of major construction bring to the local businesses and roads over 1-2 years. The local streets are already hammered with thru traffic. I am afraid this project is not appealing, and the council needs to seriously look at it again. PS; I also like several others did not ever receive any communication of this project, prior to my hearing from a local neighbour.
The scale of this prospective supermarket development is totally inappropriate for this neighbour precinct. The charm of this corner precinct should be preserved just as Council have seen fit to maintain heritage conditions for the adjoining Gascogne Estate. The COVID lockdown has effectively showcased the importance of this Central Park area as a meeting place and relaxation zone. Over development in commercial terms and traffic flows would be destructive and senseless. The amenity and charm of this location is in your hands- stand up and be counted!! Doug Neilson
There are several significant issues with this application. Firstly, the manner in which it has been proposed. Is the Council trying to sneak this through? There has been next to no community information or requests for input/comment. It is absolutely appalling that a community webinar could be held with so few people in attendance. How was it even publicised??
Secondly - the proposal itself. It is completely anathema to the neighbourhood. That this residential neighbourhood could see a large commercial, nine-story complex rubbing shoulders with heritage-listed homes, a gorgeous family park that has been the linchpin of East Malvern since 1908 and a lovely small local shopping strip is just unconscionable. The proposal is out of character with the neighbourhood. It is unnecessary - there are no fewer than five other large supermarkets within a 3 km radius, perhaps more. And all of them are in appropriate commercial environments. NOT in quiet streets.
Stonnington Councillors and planners, you should hang your heads in shame that you have even let it get this far. Are you seriously going to put the desires of a large supermarket conglomerate before the character of your neighbourhood and the wishes of the entire community? You endlessly debate all manner of small matters and ask for public input - why don't you do this with this development? I think it is very obvious that you know it would be wildly unpopular.
I completely oppose this application.
I would like to formally acknowledge my opposition to the scale of this project.
Currently this precinct in Glen Iris aka Central Park Village is a haven within a much loved, local and family oriented neighbourhood.
There have been strict planning permits in place for residents with regard to home renovations to maintain the character of the suburb with some estates only allowing one dwelling per quarter acre block.
I do not believe that the current planned building should be or needs 5 or 7 storeys.
It’s is being built on the crest of the natural incline and will be by far the tallest building in the precinct, sticking out and overlooking and overshadowing surrounding residential properties. For all those people that have dutifully followed council rules on renovations to then be blocked of sun, be overlooked by a tower block is morally ethically and fundamentally wrong.
This neighbourhood does not need a tall block of apartments. Full stop.
If the development goes ahead those at council who have been so pedantic with residents should also be as pedantic with developers and listen to the local residents who unanimously would oppose a tall building on that site.
A building up to 3 or max 4 storey would suffice.
Traffic will be very problematic. For those houses on Burke Road opposite the site they have essentially lost all their parking and ease of entry to houses. On top of losing sun and privacy.
The traffic planning and assessment has been done during lockdown periods in 2020 where unusually low volume traffic existed for obvious reasons. This seems very unintuitive.
The small local bottle shop business that has had to trade through COVID will be dealt another blow by the presence of a BWS which is not really required.
Overall I believe that the addition of this development to our local neighbourhood will negatively impact people’s lives with a tall apartment block blocking people’s light, invading their much sought after privacy in this family neighbourhood and chasing even more traffic congestion on Burke Road.
I implore the council to be fair and reasonable and use discretion when consenting to this. A lower storied block would be much more in
Keeping with all the other surrounding new apartment developments.
Kind regards
Miranda
The development contravenes multiple aspects of Stonnington's Planning Scheme which advocates and "aims to strengthen neighbourhood character in Stonnington".
This proposal weakens the character of Central Park Village and has wider ramifications for areas surrounding the village with environmentally costly flow on traffic congestion, noise pollution and a precedent for other multi-storey development creep.
Adequate supermarket facilities already exist within a reasonable distance of the proposed development and tram lines are available to convey consumers to those sites. There is adequate competition with Coles, Woolworths and an IGA within a 2km radius.
Population growth will not necessitate development of supermarket facilities at this site. Glenferrie Road has ease of transportation and with a growth in online services, which is unlikely to diminish, this face to face supermarket is unnecessary.
The unique character of Central Park Village should be preserved and encouraged. Family businesses are the core of the Village. Sammi's Fish and Chip, Central Park Pizza, Tom Pockett, Irma's Delicious Delights, Our Kitchen Table, Riserva and others are all about community. Many customers are on a first name basis with the owners of these boutique businesses that have endured pandemic hardship. Introducing a multinational supermarket diminishes the hard work of these small business owners who should be supported to rebuild.
Central Park is a community park where residents should have the right to reasonable community privacies. The current apartment complexes which overlook the oval and gardens are modest and do not intrude on the activities of persons in the park. A six storey complex with a precedent for future high rise developments, such as those around Orrong Park, risks residents losing the ability to feel safe from hundreds of prying eyes as they walk their dog, exercise, picnic or play with their children. Whilst not within Stonnington,there are other areas, in close proximity, far more suitable to high rise developments such as the Caulfield racecourse community to accommodate Melbourne's population growth not Central Park.
The proposal includes a second set of traffic lights at Hope Street which is by far the greatest illumination of council ignorance with respect to this project. The traffic congestion at that particular point of Burke Road is already extreme. The bank up during school hours combined with the tram terminus, narrow run off streets, flow back from traffic blocking the Malvern Road intersection, as trams and cars turn towards the freeway on ramp, would be exacerbated by supermarket and resident pedestrian and vehicle traffic. The size of this development would be detrimental, impact negatively on The Central Park Village and is a contradiction to the Stonnington Sustainable Environment Strategy 2018-2023.
I am opposed to the size, height and number of apartments, the altered traffic controls and the insertion of an unnecessary multinational supermarket into the fabric of a commercial community hub run by small business owners already struggling during pandemic restrictions. This development is unethical and utter nonsense.
I have a number of serious concerns regarding this Burke Rd development :
1. The proposed development has changed and is out of keeping with Central Park precinct and Dorrington Estate.
This is a significantly larger development than initially proposed and out of keeping with the established low rise, low density housing and period houses of the area or the recent medium density housing developments on Burke and Wattletree roads.
2. There has been insufficient consultation with the local community. I am affected by the development and only found out about if from a friend in the area. Changing the proposal and limited recent consultation is not in the spirit of open community consultation.
3. The traffic study used by the developers Time and Place is inadequate and misleading. The traffic study:
- was conducted in January 2021 when most residents are on holidays, most local shops closed and 3 major schools in the area (Caufield Grammar, Sacre Coeur and Korowa) are closed.
- considers two time periods 8-9am and 5-6pm, and misses the frequent gridlock from the 3pm school pick up time.
the time period chosen was not representative and they should consider school pick up times.
4. The proposed traffic lights at Hope Street will only compound the issue of traffic backed up on Dorrington Avenue around 8am and 3pm. Traffic congestion is already unsafe at these times for the high numbers of school children and elderly in the area. A second transport study needs to be undertaken so that the impact of the development on existing congestion issues in the area. The study should also consider the proposed Early Learning Centre (ELC) for Caufield Grammar on Wattletree Road.
5. While the proposal includes parking it is insufficient given existing parking issues, without an additional 200 plus residents and customers and staff of the proposed Woolworths and BWS.
6. There is already 3 bottle shop / wine bars in the area that add to the vibrancy and village atmosphere of the Central Park precinct. Opening a BWS is likely to damage these businesses and destroy the eat street feel.
In summary the development is inconsistent with the village feel and Federation housing of the Central Park precinct and Dorrington Estate. I request:
- the traffic study be updated to be better capture high congestion and high traffic flow times (i.e. not school holidays)
- a revised proposal with a smaller development and maximum of 3 stories should be submitted (i.e. more consistent with what was initially canvassed with residents)
- a smaller development will have less impact on the existing traffic and parking issues in the area.
I have recently moved to Burke Rd and am enjoying the local, community aspect of this area. I, too join the others in objecting the proposed development - there are plenty of shops/supermarkets within 2 kms to service everyone and small businesses will be drastically affected. Parking/traffic congestion is already a problem - if a supermarket is to be included then a Coles Local eg Surrey Hills is more in keeping with the area and unobtrusive. Boutique supermarkets are the way of the future in these inner suburban areas - not large ugly buildings with garish signage.
The ambience of this area is something to be proud of - preserve what we have and don’t destroy it. I would rather see energy going into upgrading Central Park and surrounds - the proposed playground is a start. The area I came from had more awareness of local needs in terms of gardens, walking tracks, seating etc with an emphasis on strip shopping and community clusters.
Listen to the people Stonnington!
I’ve lived in Malvern my whole life, I’m 32. As a somewhat “youth” in the area, I understand development, change and the need for council to make decisions for an economy BUT the intersection between Burke Road and Wattletree road is already incredibly unsafe. There have been hundreds of times when I’ve almost been hit by a car as they race through the intersections or stop abruptly to get a coffee at Coffee and Soul. Head further down Burke Road and there are high rises going up just before the freeway entrance. It’s unsafe. Drivers take risks and add unnecessary congestion to the area. The intersection of Burke and Waverley Road with the MacDonalds development is a disaster. I’m actually really shocked by the councils compete disregard of keeping Stonnington a nice and green suburb. Today alone I’ve seen 3 car accidents and it’s made me scared to drive and even walk in the area. Not to mention the increase in rubbish. If this goes ahead, my gosh. What a bloody disaster. You’ll loose the Malvern price tag, status and quite frankly I’d recommend it to all as that place that was nice but now is overrun with high rises, unsafe and “inner city chaos”. We have plenty of supermarkets, and actually if you cross the road to Carnegie they have two OPPOSITE each other, they also have pedestrians HIT AND KILLED REGULARLY. I’m shocked it’s even got this far. I’m sick of feeling unsafe because drivers are speeding and slamming on brakes all over Burke road and surrounding roads. Maybe the money could be generated by having more police presence in stopping this behaviour. Because gosh darn you’d make a hell of a lot in fines just by actioning this atrocity and leaving Central Park as a safe and welcoming family place.
This area is full of schools and school aged children who already face increased risk from heavy traffic in the area. Motorists face large numbers of distractions from trams,dogs, exercisers and multiple take away food places. The large number of apartments going into the area has placed more pressure on parking and traffic congestion. No more high intensity site occupation please.