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1. A lot of us neighbours are against this development as it's not suited and will ruin our streets by its monstrosity of size. It is out of character in a small and narrow street that we live in here and would not be able to be so called blend in at all. It will also increase traffic and also affect us in parking as we already suffering from westfields. There are also a number of child care centres within a kilometre of here that also are not full so we don't see how a centre that would hold 141 kids is needed in a small street. Also, this design does not cater for children to be evacuated to a safe place if there is a fire or some other drastic scenario were to happen. There is no close area where 141 kids can be placed in a safe place with staff if anything happens. Think about lives before profit council and owners.

2. A lot of us neighbours are against this development as it's not suited and will ruin our streets by its monstrosity of size. It is out of character in a small and narrow street that we live in here and would not be able to be so called blend in at all. It will also increase traffic and also affect us in parking as we already suffering from westfields. There are also a number of child care centres within a kilometre of here that also are not full so we don't see how a centre that would hold 141 kids is needed in a small street. Also, this design does not cater for children to be evacuated to a safe place if there is a fire or some other drastic scenario were to happen. There is no close area where 141 kids can be placed in a safe place with staff if anything happens. Think about lives before profit council and owners.

3. This development is too big and in a location that does not support the size. The streets surrounding this are already narrow and most times of the day from Kiora Road down Animbo and View Street are one way. The roundabout at Animbo,View and Wandella is often at a stand still. It is an extremely dangerous intersection already. Traffic at peak times already banks from President Avenue down Wandella Road an up to Westfields. . How on earth a 141 place child care centre was even considered for this location is unbelievable.

4. I'm disappointed to read this construction is still on council''s list of possible approval. There is NO requirement for another child care facility in this close proximity to ALL the other centres struggling to get sufficient patronage. The safety standards of this particular site are practically non existent with NO requirement for a evacuation site near- bye. It sadens me to know council do not have the interest of home buyers at heart- just big business with big dollars. The Shire use to have an unique appeal however we are now looking more & more like Hurstville & Wollie Creek. Please get those over greedy people out of Sutherland Shire Council ( transfer em to Hurstville) & bring in an enlightened clear minded coucil that can balance effectively the way forward with development we need and a vision to keep suburban streets safe for young & old.

5. I can't believe this project is still in their list despite streets capacity issues are deemed unsatisfactory for the development. The roads are busy enough and is causing extreme danger even with the amount of traffic we have now. I personally already find it very hard to cross the road at the moment due to the large amount of traffic passing through to get to/leave Westfield and additional traffic would just make it even harder for us to get across. There are in fact lots of child care center in the area and a lot are still advertising to take in children. This shows there are always availability in the area, and with decreasing birth rate, there are no requirement for an addition child care center. On the other hand, we were just told by the council that there are such demand and we were not given any justification as to why this is required. The council is just always in favor for big business and neglect local residence because in my opinion, they can get more money out of helping big business. They neglect not only our thoughts, but also our safety etc. I was wondering what I have paid my council fee for. Are they just use to fund a group of people who can then run the council to work and plan and putting our lives at threat and disturbance, and possibly to earn more money for themselves and for big businesses? Know your role council, you would regret by the time when more accidents are occurring and people will start suing you for non compliant roads and town planning.

6. Consider plan totally inappropriate for the location. Traffic already a problem at roundabout on Wandella Rd and delivery of large number of children by car each day would only increase volume and problems with proposed entry in Wandella Rd and exit in View St. Building size and design out of character with surrounding residential area and if approved demolition and construction would cause major problems in both View and Animbo Streets which are already have high traffic flow. Seems to be insufficient parking spaces in building allocated for staff which would cause problems with parking in View and Animbo and adjoining streets.
   Two storey building with 141 children would impose on adjoining houses, reducing privacy and increasing noise levels.

7. This proposal doesnt fit with the surrounding neighbourhood on many levels. Firstly the size of it is as big as some of the small schools around the area, this is a residential street and having 141 childcare centre is too large for the street. Where will all these children go in the event of an emergency, it is located on the corner of a very busy and dangerous round a bout, there is no park or open space close by the locate the children if the centre needed to be evacuated, like other child care centres around the area. View St is a narrow st that already has numerous car accidents ranging from mirrors being knocked off our cars if we park out the front to cars colliding with power poles from speeding down our street to collisions with other cars. the amount of additional traffic that will be generated at already busy times of the day for View and Wandella St is going to cause the roads to be further clogged. There has been no consideration for the neighbours whose houses will devalue as no one will want to live next to such a big centre of 141 children. there will be more cars parked on the street from the centre as there is not enough parking underneath for all the staff and parents, View St will become even more of a rat run for traffic.

8. Hello,

   I am writing to you regarding the proposed child care centre at 1-5 View St Miranda.

   View Street and Animbo Street already has too much traffic. This proposed development will negatively impact all residents of View Street and Animbo Street.

   View St and Animbo Street are both too narrow, I have already seen three cars get side swiped in the six weeks I have lived in Animbo Street. Adding vulnerable small children to this already hazardous situation poses a risk too great.

   Regards,

   Joel Watson
   0427446967

9. In regards to all the previous comments, I totally agree but a large number of residents in Gymea Bay tried to prevent a childcare centre from being built in a Cul-de-sac at 51 Coonong Rd (south of the creek) Gymea Bay. Not only was it in a cul-de-sac it is also opposite a T-intersection with no through roads at all. Therefore no essential/emergency services or evacuation via a 'through' road would be possible because they don't exist because of the Coonong Creek. Six council members including a Council Architect disapproved of the application but Sutherland Council GM apparently approved the Centre. Also there was 'open space' upstairs in the original planned building marked as 'Staff Area' which was questioned by the Representative Council Architect at the Council meeting but the Developer was adamant it was for staff but now the centre has seeked approval & I believe been granted to increase numbers from the original application and yes it is the 'Staff Area' space being used. The parking & traffic report stated a "two lane street' but they didn't mention parked cars on each side narrows the road to barely one car let alone a fire truck access. Gymea Primary School with 800 plus students is on the corner & parents use the cul-de-sac as a drop off/parking & turn-around street. Read the traffic report for 51 Coonong Rd Gymea Bay on the Council Planning website & take a walk to the mentioned address & you will see the council didn't even look at the area themselves they relied on the Developer's own commissioned traffic report who lives outside of the Shire. Revenue for the council/government at the expense of small children's safety and the resident's real concerns were totally ignored and we had over 25 residents at the meeting. I wish you good luck but your concerns fall on deaf ears and your comments posted on this website will be ignored as ours were. Just look at 51 Coonong Rd as an example particularly as there are 3 large childcare centres along Gymea Bay Rd within 0.5km from 51 Coonong Rd. I feel the Shire Resident's voice is not taken seriously and lost to the greed of the Council & NSW Govt. Our Shire is being overdeveloped, treeless and gridlocked like the Eastern Suburbs has become. I wish you luck.

10. In regards to all the previous comments, I totally agree but a large number of residents in Gymea Bay tried to prevent a childcare centre from being built in a Cul-de-sac at 51 Coonong Rd (south of the creek) Gymea Bay. Not only was it in a cul-de-sac it is also opposite a T-intersection with no through roads at all. Therefore no essential/emergency services or evacuation via a 'through' road would be possible because they don't exist because of the Coonong Creek. Six council members including a Council Architect disapproved of the application but Sutherland Council GM apparently approved the Centre. Also there was 'open space' upstairs in the original planned building marked as 'Staff Area' which was questioned by the Representative Council Architect at the Council meeting but the Developer was adamant it was for staff but now the centre has seeked approval & I believe been granted to increase numbers from the original application and yes it is the 'Staff Area' space being used. The parking & traffic report stated a "two lane street' but they didn't mention parked cars on each side narrows the road to barely one car let alone a fire truck access. Gymea Primary School with 800 plus students is on the corner & parents use the cul-de-sac as a drop off/parking & turn-around street. Read the traffic report for 51 Coonong Rd Gymea Bay on the Council Planning website & take a walk to the mentioned address & you will see the council didn't even look at the area themselves they relied on the Developer's own commissioned traffic report who lives outside of the Shire. Revenue for the council/government at the expense of small children's safety and the resident's real concerns were totally ignored and we had over 25 residents at the meeting. I wish you good luck but your concerns fall on deaf ears and your comments posted on this website will be ignored as ours were. Just look at 51 Coonong Rd as an example particularly as there are 3 large childcare centres along Gymea Bay Rd within 0.5km from 51 Coonong Rd. I feel the Shire Resident's voice is not taken seriously and lost to the greed of the Council & NSW Govt. Our Shire is being overdeveloped, treeless and gridlocked like the Eastern Suburbs has become. I wish you luck.

11. I think it would be worth council looking into making provisions for childcare in the new da's of large unit developments like at the brickworks etc. what I mean is I see in the city and also at mascot where there is a large residential block that a part of the building is allocated for a childcare centre that way a space is provided for the new large number of people being put into these developments. Just a thought.

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