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1. Notice Of Objection

   I object to this application.

   I would withdraw my objections if the conditions to the permit included a condition along the following lines:

   “When travelling to and from the subject site, delivery vehicles must not use local residential streets. The applicant will make all persons making deliveries aware of this condition.”

   Paul Hobson 13 Kingsley Street Camberwell

2. I object to this application.

   There are no benefits to local residents in Heritage Overlay 191, Hassett Estate.

   Issues:

   1. Removal of variety of services from shopping strip forcing residents to shop elsewhere, e.g. Camberwell Junction and while we're there using the pet shop, petrol station, Myki top up, fish and chips, etc. we may as well use the Woolies too!

   2. 15 truck deliveries per day - amenity / safety issue for residents/students in Heritage Overlay 191, Hassett Estate, directly adjoining to the north. No truck runs through the Hassett Estate.

   3. Change pedestrian crossing to traffic signals. Otherwise entering/exiting the proposal is an accident waiting to happen.

   4. Excessive amount of large illuminated screaming signage not in keeping with either the 1920's/1930's Middle Camberwell shopping strip character nor the peaceful neighbourhood character in general in both the HO 191 Hassett Estate north and the Bringa Estate south.

   5. Excessive noise from plant and equipment associated with a LARGE supermarket.

3. THIS IS A HIGHLY INAPPROPRIATE DEVELOPMENT IN THE MIDDLE CAMBERWELL SHOPPING PRECINT.

   The is traffic congestion and lack of parking already. Why when there is the Camberwell Junction major shopping precinct just over a mile away with lots of parking etc and public transport access would the Council even consider yet allow such over-development in Middle Camberwell? - more//higher rates income I guess. The current supermarket and other businesses and service providers in Middle Camberwell cater well for customer needs. It seems to be a matter of over zealous competition between 2 major retail players no matter what and the Council will fail in its duty to local ratepayers and residents if a decision to allow this development is allowed.

4. If the planning application meets all of the guidelines then why should it not be allowed to proceed?
   The particular location is an eyesore with the buildings all looking hotch-potch and pretty run down. A new development will add vibrancy to the area and certainly give Woolworths a long overdue bit of competition.
   It is a well known marketing fact that smaller independent shops follow the "big 2" as the latter attracts plenty of foot traffic

5. I welcome the application provided it meets all the guidelines. We certainly need more competition and new shops are welcome.

6. When I read some of the comments here (blinding "red and white signboard", "do we need another supermarket when we have Woolies"...etc) I do suspect they are from Woolworth's management!! As for fears of additional traffic - the same people will either walk/drive to Coles instead of Woolies and vice versa.

   Loss of character, seriously? Are we talking about the same 4-5 random shops in some positively ugly single storey structures? What character do these ugly buildings have exactly? Riversdale Road is a main/arterial road for and not some inner residential street with lovely period homes.

   As for additional traffic - well, with the increase in population, that is to be expected. The comments reek of NIMBYism.

   I am all for Riversdale Road to develop and become more vibrant on both sides. Because once we have a big shopping complex, I am pretty sure even more smaller shops will follow thanks to more foot traffic.

   Regards
   Kassy

7. @ N S Kassy We are most certainly NOT from Woolworths management. Your comments reek of ignorance. I wonder if you even live near the proposal or will you drive through and back to your amenity. Have you bothered looking at the plans yet? Have a long hard look at them. I wouldn't call an art deco shopping strip 'ugly'. It is part of the history of the area. What will be ugly will be the proposal ... if it goes ahead. It is a long box without character and pretty pointless putting another large supermarket opposite Woolworths, removing services, like the medical clinic, etc needed in the community. That is not planning for the future. This is not 'vibrant'. If you bothered to look, you will see this section of Riversdale Road has many 'lovely period homes' both east and west of the shopping strip. If you need a 'big shopping complex' you could visit Camberwell Junction, Box Hill or even Chadstone. FYI this is not a 'big shopping complex' it is just a big supermarket, bottleshop and car park taking up the whole block.

8. @ Michael and @ N S Kassy
   The only 'eyesore' will be the blinding red and white illuminated 6m, 5m, etc. long multiple signs on the bland steel, glass and concrete box like development if it goes ahead. Small business will be driven from Middle Camberwell and traffic will be horrendous on Riversdale Road and within local residential streets impacting on amenity. This development will be the demise of the identity and character of the shopping strip. You can use your buzz words of 'vibrancy/' etc, but all a development such as this will create is 'chaos'. There is absolutely NO NEED for two supermarkets opposite each other in this strip. Take it to a strip with no existing supermarket. We have no problem with new development appropriate to the strip offering a diverse range of services to complement the existing. The medical centre needs to be returned to Middle Camberwell as a necessity.

9. I am a little confused by the talk of the 1920/30's character of the shopping strip.

   Whilst the surrounding houses may have this character, the northern side of Riversdale Road where they propose to build the supermarket is about as ugly and dysfunctional as it gets. Would be great to see this eyesore improved. Trying to park on that side of the road is a nightmare, the parking spots at the front of the pet shop don't even match up with crossovers.

   Even the southern side is not that attractive and the shops aren't very inspiring. Maybe the local elderly use them but I personally only generally go to the supermarket as Camberwell Junction is so much better.

   A supermarket on that side of the road would make it easy for city workers heading home at night to stop in a grab a few things (would be awkward to pull out of Safeway carpark and do a righthand turn in peak traffic.

   But we don't like change do we......lol

10. I've been properly chastised for being ignorant about the marvels along Riversdale Road. So I deliberately walked along Riversdale Road yesterday and looked long and hard at the architecture and lo behold, my eyes finally opened in wide admiration at the marvellous 'Art Deco' medical clinic, the canary yellow pet warehouse, the sky blue fish and chip shop, the potential heritage award winner of a petrol pump, not to mention the quaint 7-11. Truly, these buildings deserve to have heritage overlays with immediate effect. I cannot for a moment imagine that a modern supermarket will replace such architectural wonders along Riversdale Road. Sigh.

11. @ Lucy of Camberwell and @ NS Kassy

    Thank you for acknowledging the surrounding houses (east/west and north) have historical character from the 1920s and 30s. The shops in the strip do too. The icecream shop and the florist are protected by a heritage overlay. The dental surgery has been reported as of individual historical significance.

    We have an existing supermarket, Woolworths, (with permission to develop any time in the future) - why would you want the variety of serivces used by the community removed to put a second supermarket opposite an existing supermarket taking up the whole block? It would make more sense to put in a variety of shops on the subject site. The building detail could definitely be improved upon. The proposal could have canopy trees. Less 'major shopping centre style' illuminated signage.

    If you think the traffic is a nightmare now, wait until this proposal is built. You will definitely go and shop at the Junction because Middle Camberwell will be so congested (212 car parks).. There are no traffic signals proposed for the 4 driveways to Riversdale Rd from the proposed supermarket, so you will have traffic turning from both sides of Riversdale Road east and west - accidents waiting to happen.

    4 driveways across the footpath is not pedestrian friendly - for children, elderly and the rest of the community. Will exiting/entering cars in a hurry give way to pedestrians?

    A little more thought should be given to the surrounding community when considering this ridiculous proposal, those residents who are stuck with it, not just the convenience for 'city workers heading home at night to stop and grab a few things'. The residents will not be driving through and leaving Middle Camberwell. They are stuck with the amenity loss forever.

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