315 Greta Road Kulnura NSW 2250

Poultry farm expansion

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We found this application for you on the planning authority's website almost 4 years ago. It was received by them 3 days earlier.

(Source: Central Coast Council (Wyong Shire), reference DA - 1364 / 2015)

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  1. Christina Nicholas commented

    The poultry farm is a foul stain on the town of Kulnura. Whenever the wind blows in a certain direction, a hellish smell follows and makes being outdoors almost unbearable. I would wholeheartedly object to any form of expansion whatsoever, as the existence of this farm already has a negative impact on living in this area. Further expansions or additions would act to lower the standard of living and comfort for neighbours. I am embarrassed to have guests over when this smell permeates the air and they question its origin. I am also personally repulsed knowing the source of it. This farm needs to work on minimising their impact, rather than expanding it.

  2. Andrew Nicholas commented

    Nothing has changed since the last DA from this applicant. The last time it was withdrawn before it could be refused. This cynical reapplication is simply an attempt hoping that interested parties may not notice. I repeat my previous comments:
    My response to the DA at 351 Greta Rd Kulnura is that it is a cynical re-application to increase the capacity of this Poultry Farm. It has already been considered and refused, so why bother going through the whole process again?
    Will this DA rear its ugly head every 2 years? We bought our property late last year at 344 Greta Rd for a tranquil rural coexistence and have to accept the existing stinking enterprise. Does anyone ever inspect the place to see if it's compliant now? I would have thought that’s the first stage of consideration – to see if the current operation complies with its Environmental Management Plan. I hope that's the case, because it's a major factor in the initial stages of considering an extension/enlargement. I guarantee there will be some close monitoring from now on.
    This area is agricultural, not heavy industrial. Greta Rd (a minor road, not wide nor strong enough) cannot safely handle more trucks; neither can the residents, nor the many walkers on the Great North Walk. The existing stink of rotting carcasses hopefully is only that and does not carry airborne germs etc. I hope Council has inspected/audited the Plan requirements. The applicants and representative themselves refer to their interest as an “industrial activity”. Since when was this area zoned as “industrial? What a flagrant distortion of land use with residential homes situated only about 20 metres away? There are now far more residential uses of land in this area than industrial/commercial’ uses. The orchards and horse studs make no noise or acrid smells.
    Their land, 9+ hectares is too small for this industry. Ingham’s guidelines for anyone joining are 45 hectares being the minimum desired size. “Role of the producer or investor: Provide the land. The land generally needs to be at least 45ha in size and located so as to comply with local council bylaws and regulations for broiler chicken production (which may, among other requirements, increase the size of land necessary).” Source: http://www.inghams.com.au/enterprises/media/plb/inghams_about_opportunity_120111i.pdf
    It’s hard to believe that the existing operation has no water licence. I presume the proposed over development will also not include a commercial water licence. “A water licence or other approval from the NSW Office of Water is generally required to extract water from rivers or aquifers to use for commercial purposes.” Source http://www.water.nsw.gov.au/Water-licensing/About-licences/About-licences/default.aspx

    Everyone has a right to enjoy and have their amenity in this area. The only canker around here is the poultry enterprise at 351. Nothing has occurred to improve the chances of this repeated DA being approved. Indeed some things have deteriorated. Greta Rd has worn badly and been repaired - damage mostly due to heavy vehicles and rain.
    When considering the proposed extension one must ponder: what if by increasing the movements of so many huge trucks two meet head on or one wipes out a resident pulling out of their driveway? These will become distinct possibilities. There is already a great deal of legitimate early morning traffic on Greta Rd, mostly "tradies" doing 80kph on their way to work. The location of the business is on a bend narrow road. Add many more huge trucks and you can imagine what will happen. I believe someone has analysed and supplied you with the actual truck movements. The width of Greta Road in the area of the subject poultry farm was about 17ft wide - cold bitumen laid upon only graded clay. Does RMS support oversize vehicles frequently using narrow, sub-standard country roads that have never been properly engineered with no centre lines marked?
    Now to the EIS. It is nothing but a massive smoke screen of generic statements designed to wear down the poor person who has to try to delve through its mass of nonsense and deceptive misleading statements. It's a case of quantity over quality and who in Council possesses the skills, resolve and experience to decipher the facts from the subterfuge.
    People come to this delightful area to live, picnic, walk, drive and an increasing number of tourists enjoy Kulnura and its beautiful surrounds. As Council has previously determined, this is an over development of an existing risky enterprise.
    Also the increasing trend towards free range chickens as a preference for consumers reduces the viability of such archaic enterprises.

  3. Andrew Nicholas commented

    I've just realised the DA 1364 / 2015 refers to another address in Greta Road. However, it's just the same inappropriate nonsense as 351 Greta Road (which will raise its head again soon), so the objection is the same.

  4. Andrew Nicholas commented

    From where we live across the road it looks, feels and sounds like an arrogance by the owners having no other consideration than a cynical pursuit of more money. Our family residing opposite at 344 Greta Road realised we couldn’t object to the existing poultry farms in the area including this one. We accepted the status quo when we purchased our property in 2012.Greta Rd and Springs Rd were never designed nor have been upgraded to manage the movements and tonnage which the DA will create. The applicants have grossly understated the truck movements for an expansion of this magnitude.

    This area is agricultural, not heavy industrial. Greta Rd (a minor road, not wide nor strong enough) cannot safely handle more trucks; neither can the residents, nor the many walkers on the Great North Walk. The existing stink of rotting carcasses carrying airborne germs etc. I hope Council has inspected/audited the Plan requirements. Since when was this area zoned as “industrial? That’s exactly what this would be. Over 3,500 truck movements per annum, many of long B doubles illegally using Forest, Bumble Hill, Greta and Springs Roads as exists now with the current chicken processing factories (they’re certainly not farms. What a flagrant distortion of land use with residential homes situated only about 20 metres away? There are now far more residential uses of land in this area than industrial/commercial’ uses. The orchards, farms and horse studs make no noise or acrid smells.

    When considering the proposed extension one must ponder: what if by increasing the movements of so many huge trucks two meet head on or one wipes out a resident pulling out of their driveway? These will become distinct possibilities. There is already a great deal of legitimate early morning traffic on Greta Rd, mostly "tradies" doing 80kph on their way to work. The location of the business is on a bend narrow road. Add many more huge trucks and you can imagine what will happen.
    I believe someone has analysed and supplied you with the actual truck movements. The width of Greta Road in the area of the subject poultry farm was about 17ft wide - cold bitumen laid upon only graded clay. Does RMS support oversize vehicles frequently using narrow, sub-standard country roads that have never been properly engineered with no centre lines marked?
    People come to this delightful area to live, picnic, walk, drive and an increasing number of tourists enjoy Kulnura and its beautiful surrounds. As Council has previously determined, this is an over development of an existing risky enterprise.

    POLLUTION
    Industrial farms, also called factory farms or CAFOs (confined animal feeding operations) pollute the air in many ways, emitting foul odours, airborne particles, greenhouse gases, and numerous toxic chemicals. Industrial farms are leading producers of noxious substances such as nitrous oxide and ammonia. They produce more than 400 different gases In addition to dust and airborne particles known as endotoxins generated during the handling and disposal of manure, The production and use of animal feeds, and the truck transport and distribution of farm products. Air pollution from industrial poultry farms can cause health problems in agricultural workers, in residents of neighbouring communities, and in farm animals. Although strategies exist to reduce air pollution, such industrial farms do little or nothing in this regard.
    Studies have revealed that up to 20 percent of farmers and farm workers report work-related symptoms of respiratory affections, such as coughing, sputum and wheezing. Some develop asthma, others develop diseases that are described as ODTS (organic dust toxic syndrome). There are indications that various pathogens can survive in ambient air for several minutes and can be distributed over long distances more than 50 km, and staphylococci up to 500 m).
    The pollution of the water table will be permanent rendering any bores non potable. Where will their massively increased water supply come from? Are they going to magically tap into town water, because there’s not enough ground water to sustain this monstrous industrial site?
    Have you read and will they comply with the requirements of this document? https://www.epa.nsw.gov.au/resources/air/mod3p3chick07268.pdf
    Will it comply with theNSW Dept of Primary Industries’ Best Practice Management for Meat Chicken Production in NSW. http://www.chicken.org.au/files/_system/Document/NSW%20Best%20Practice%20Manuals/BPM-for-meat-chicken-production-in-NSW-manual-1.pdf
    • Industry description Meat chicken establishments that are intended to accommodate more than 250,000 birds are scheduled under the POEO Act. They need to hold an Environment Protection Licence and DECC is the Appropriate Regulatory Authority. Local government is responsible for environment protection for meat chicken farms with capacity smaller than 250,000 birds.

    • 21. Livestock intensive industries (4) Poultry farms for the commercial production of birds (such as domestic fowls, turkeys, ducks, geese, game birds and emus), whether as meat birds, layers or breeders and whether as free range or shedded birds: (a) that accommodate more than 250,000 birds, or (b) that are located: (i) within 100 metres of a natural waterbody or wetland, or (ii) within a drinking water catchment, or (iii) within 500 metres of another poultry farm, or (iv) within 500 metres of a residential zone or 150 metres of a dwelling not associated with the development and, in the opinion of the consent authority, having regard to topography and local meteorological conditions, are likely to significantly affect the amenity of the neighbourhood by reason of noise, odour, dust, lights, traffic or waste.
    You must read this Best Practicemanagement Doc and expect more work if you intend to grant this ridiculous DA. They have no intention of complying with its standards.
    NOISE
    It’s noisy now and this massive expansion will turn it into an industrial inferno of yelling, banging, horn blowing, fork lifts, trucks, machinery – sounds like a massive factory doesn’t it. Just like allowing an industrial factory to be built in an average urban location – it just isn’t allowed, because it’s incongruous, dirty smelly and a pollutant of very kind. It’s not farming; it’s a factory causing industrial contaminants of every variety.
    LOCATION
    It’s not hard to work out that the existing operation is too close now to the chicken processing sheds at 351 Greta Rd. That alone would be a reason to refuse the DA.
    Having read all of the objections to this DA, I wholeheartedly applaud the comprehensive and meticulous contributions of some. Much research has been done (far more than the applicant) as to the environmental and local amenity related impacts of this proposal.

    We feel confident that Wyong Council will refuse this ludicrous attempt at exploiting and over industrialising in a rural/residential area without concern or regard to almost every possible deleterious probability.

  5. George A commented

    I moved in November and loved the ambience of the place and the clean air. In the last 4 days, the stink of the chickens by the new management of the facility near by has become unbearable and I cannot go outside the house.

    This is a serious issue and the local councils disregarding all complaints leaving it to greedy owners doing what they want as they have no intentions to minimise this issue for the sake of profits.

    If staff at the council cannot deal with it then get other experts who have more authority

    We need to take this further and fight it in court. I have no issues with them running a business but if they cannot manage it then the facility must close until further notice and do it in their back yard next to their own kitchen and bedrooms. WE NEED TO STOP THIS ALL TOGETHER.

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