2 Beach Way, Sapphire Beach NSW 2450

Centre-based childcare facility and kiosk (change of use, involving demolition, alterations and additions)

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We found this application for you on the planning authority's website 3 months ago. It was received by them 3 days earlier.

(Source: Coffs Harbour City Council, reference 0164/20DA)

161 Comments

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  1. Kevin commented

    Not comfortable with the increased pedestrian and vehicle traffic; there is no arterial road in; this is a public park area for general use not to be privatised as a childcare centre

  2. Chris Kingston commented

    The proposed development of a child care centre means a loss of car parking, loss of community, increase in traffic in a family oriented community and an increase in noise.
    The proposal means losing car parking spaces and an increase in traffic flow and volume.
    The present development itself has very limited parking availability, to the point that people park on verges and roads-infringement notices for vehicles are often served and parking is dangerous in corners etc.
    If the proposed development goes ahead, visitors to the community park and locals will have nowhere to park-leading to further congestion and dangerous road conditions.
    An increase in traffic, and no arterial road, will mean that a greater danger is posed for the large amounts children in this family friendly community of Sapphire beach. It will also create very limited parking for locals and visitors to the beach access.
    This will deter the sense of community that the current cafe and park allows the residents of Sapphire beach.
    The plans and proposed development are out of character with the local environment, the sense of community this space creates and the natural beauty of the area. I am against this application and ask the Council to reconsider this application.

  3. Melanie commented

    I believe that a childcare centre won’t provide the gathering space that a cafe/restaurant does. Sapphire Beach benefits from having a community space where all ages can meet.
    People are unlikely to feel comfortable gathering outside a childcare centre.

  4. Rachel commented

    Loosing this space will take from the attractiveness that the area has built. The higher more constant traffic flow will definately make an impact on the one road in one road out situation. The cafe was community purpose built, not to be a child care centre. The area will loose the park playground and bbq areas. This plan does not suit the quiet residential setting.

  5. Sarah commented

    I’m disappointed at the potential loss of the community space which is a special feature of North Sapphire Beach. I am very concerned about the possible increase of traffic likely to occur at exactly the times our local children are walking between homes and bus stops. There are already several corners with poor visibility and inadequate traffic slowing measures and I anticipate safety to be a serious issue.

  6. david malone commented

    I object strongly,
    Its a lovely spot for the community and if repurposed the community looses greatly.
    Parking will be affected
    The park is a community park not for private enterprise
    Small children and cars don't mix.
    This area has many tourists and public toilets so you never know who is there.
    The roads are totally inadequate.
    The whole centre would have to be fenced from the public which would be an eyesore.
    This will destroy the community feel to the whole area.

  7. Lynne Dougherty commented

    The Beachstone Cafe was a HUGE selling point when I bought my land. Like other residents, I have invested a considerable amount of time and money to build a structure and landscaping that complied with the master planned community's rigorous design guidelines. The location of the Beachstone Cafe is perfect in it's current function because it is a gathering point for family and community. Many of the blocks of land within the community are very small and residents do not have sufficient areas of outside space to host visiting family and friends, so the Beachstone Cafe and playground provides an integral part of socialization for many residents. Importantly, the Beachstone Cafe is inclusive of all age groups. The openness and accessibility of the cafe promotes a healthy and happy quality of life for residents. I am a teacher and a parent of four children and caution that proximity of the Beachstone Cafe to the beach makes it highly unsuitable to be used as a child care for the following reasons; the coastal habitat is a breeding ground for the highly venomous Red-bellied Black snake and Eastern Brown snake, both of which are frequently sighted within the vicinity of the cafe and are protected by Australian law under the Conservation Act of 1992. The ratio of supervisory adults in a childcare setting is far fewer than parents monitoring their children at the cafe and playground so the risk of a child coming into contact with a highly venomous snake is increased. My daughter worked at the Beachstone Cafe a few years ago and witnessed a few occasions where people picked up a snake from the grass, close to the building. Another concern is the location of a childcare center so close to the beach board walk access. Having multiple strangers passing by the center and having children in full view of those passing, increases the likelihood of attracting pedophiles to our community. The location next to the beach also increases the possibility of a child wondering off and drowning. Aesthetically, any alteration to the current structure to increase child safety would be unacceptable to the homeowners who purchased their land/homes with the understanding that the Beachstone Cafe structure was purpose built as a cafe and playground to be used as a gathering space for community as a way to offset smaller blocks of land as represented in the in the original masterplan of our North Sapphire Beach community.

  8. Susan commented

    Sapphire beach Estate is unique with its ease for residents/ locals to access a cafe like Beachstone .
    It’s also a hotspot for people visiting Coffs Harbour as the Cafe is linked to a playground .
    I also often see red belly snakes in the area with several being spotted around perimeter of park and bush near car park , which can be dangerous around little ones.

  9. Barbara commented

    Why do we need a childcare centre? There is one nearby at Moonee.
    We purchased our land believing that the cafe and park would always be part of the North Sapphire community. It is very well utilised by locals and visitors. I strongly object to a commercial childcare centre in this space.

  10. Emma Sainsbury commented

    Very disappointing to hear of this application! Beachstone cafe and park would be a major loss to the Sapphire community. Communities need these spaces to build a community and engage with each other. The benefits of these spaces not only impacts on physical activity but also contributes to mental health and other health outcomes for the community. The environments where people choose to live and raise there families has major affects on these outcomes.

  11. David commented

    Very disappointing to hear of this application. The layout of the estate centred around boardwalks and paths to the Beachstone Cafe. The loss of the cafe and what it currently offers the local community and visitors would be a real shame. With plenty of Day care centres already available locally I urge the council to reconsider this application and have some consideration for the residents of North Sapphire who were sold the Dream by developers and envisioned weekends and afternoons at The Cafe with family and friends.

  12. Ken M commented

    This DA application should be denied by Coffs Council quickly & easily.
    In reference to Coffs City Council's Development Contribution plans For the Moonee & Sapphire Areas dated 2015 then recently revised 27 June 2018 (link below) marked 2019 this application for a childcare centre is well outside the past & future plans & requirements for the use of the land & property including adjacent public space.
    Section 4 OPEN SPACE & RECREATION ("having regard to councils adopted open space plan 2010, it is anticipated that a preference for all sporting facilities, passive recreation and neighbourhood parks/playgrounds will existing." " A network of neighbourhood parks is proposed to cater for recreational needs of the additional population. Five additional facilities are proposed, comprising of 3 neighbourhood parks.") so before council try to take/rezone our recreational & meeting place they should best deliver the balance of facilities promised.
    Should you look at the recently disassociated developers (Walkers) website they still have the list of attractions listing Beachstone Cafe as a draw card. This was one of the reasons to buy, build & relocate our family to this exclusive Family & Community orientated beachside area.
    - De-value surrounding properties, parking & access, reduced community space, changed to open space planning, noise and the list goes on for this DA to be denied. If it does proceed further, I'm pretty sure locals are currently excelling at signing petitions to stop our council. (see Coffs Civic Space)

    https://www.coffsharbour.nsw.gov.au/Building-and-Planning/Planning-Controls-and-Guidelines/Documents/Developer%20Contribution%20Plans%202018/Developer%20Contributions%20Plan%20-%20Moonee%20Area.pdf

  13. Rachel Kingston commented

    I wish to lodge my concern regarding the application for change of use for Beach Stone Cafe to a child care facility. I believe this change of use would be detrimental to the community, contrary to the plan for the area and does not serve an identified need - unlike the provision of community space that is currently provided in the form of the cafe and playground.
    The Coffs City Council's Development Contribution plans For the Moonee & Sapphire Areas dated 2019 clearly state in Section 4 OPEN SPACE & RECREATION 'having regard to councils adopted open space plan 2010, it is anticipated that a preference for all sporting facilities, passive recreation and neighbourhood parks/playgrounds will exist." The current cafe provides both a passive recreation venue and playground area for members of the community to use. Similarly, the plan states " A network of neighbourhood parks is proposed to cater for recreational needs of the additional population. Five additional facilities are proposed, comprising of 3 neighbourhood parks. The park and cafe provide for the recreation needs of the community - a reason the blocks were smaller because of the provision of community space and facilities. Rezoning Beachstone cafe would remove this essential space and is not in line with the current plan for the area.
    As mentioned by others, the developers website they still has a the list of attractions listing Beachstone Cafe as a draw card. Personally, my family was drawn to this area because of the provision of this facility, creating a hub for this new and growing community. A child care centre is not needed in this area, a large one is present in Moonee Beach and others close by in the Plaza area. Demand is for a community space in which we can enjoy a fullness of life.
    Parking and access can be tricky, with people often having to park on the verge and receiving parking fines. The current plans for change of use also includes removing car parking spaces. With the increased traffic to the area because of this facility (and the danger that this poses to our community) a loss of further car parking spaces is only going to cause further dangers and congestion. The extra noise cause by the development would also impact adversely on the local residents.

    I object strongly to this rezoning and DA and ask the council to deny this application

  14. Ruth Mansell commented

    Extremely disappointed to hear of this application. Our estate is centred around the boardwalks and paths that lead to Beachstone Cafe. This would be a great loss to our local community and to the visitors who come and use this beautiful space.

  15. Lucyna commented

    This is such a shame. This was definitely one of the reasons we bought our place here. An easy walk with two little kids to the playground/ meeting point for lots of mothers and for a coffee and something to eat. Friday’s nights it became a social spot. We need more spaces where you can seat and enjoy your drink whilst your kids are playing.

  16. Tegan commented

    What a waste of such a beautiful area for families and kids to safely play outside. The location is used by hundreds of community members each week. There is already a lack of safe playgrounds on the Coffs Coast away from traffic and to take this away would be a massive loss to the community. I also believe that it would have a negative impact on house prices in the Sapphire Beach Estate as the cafe and grounds are a draw card to reside in the area.

  17. Kayla M commented

    I have great concerns regarding the application for change of use for Beach Stone Cafe to a child care facility. As a resident of Sapphire Beach we purchased and built our home in accordance with very strict guidelines as set our in the master plan. One of the main draw cards for buying in sapphire beach was the appeal of the open spaces and also the attached cafe area. The following is taken directly from the master plan “ Developed with families in mind, North Sapphire Beach features an onsite café and large park which nurture a genuine sense of community. Once complete, the neighbourhood will total 231 home sites.” Changing the purpose of this cafe area will be detrimental to ALL of the residents of the 231 addresses.

    This space is a meeting place for the community, not only sapphire beach residents but other Coffs locals and tourists alike. The change would be detrimental to the community, and there is no need for a child care centre in the area having two large centres at Moonee Beach. There is a great need for community space in sapphire beach given the population increase in recent years and this community space is in the form of an open cafe and play group park area.

    The Coffs City Council's Development Contribution plans For the Moonee & Sapphire Areas dated 2019 clearly state in Section 4 OPEN SPACE & RECREATION 'having regard to councils adopted open space plan 2010, it is anticipated that a preference for all sporting facilities, passive recreation and neighbourhood parks/playgrounds will exist." The current cafe provides both a passive recreation venue and playground area for members of the community to use. Similarly, the plan states " A network of neighbourhood parks is proposed to cater for recreational needs of the additional population. Five additional facilities are proposed, comprising of 3 neighbourhood parks. The park and cafe provide for the recreation needs of the community - a reason the blocks were smaller because of the provision of community space and facilities. Rezoning Beachstone cafe would remove this essential space and is not in line with the current plan for the area.
    In regard to the safety of the area -
    Parking is already difficult in the area and there will undoubtedly be an increase in traffic to the area particularly at peak times of the morning when children and other residents of the area would usually be using the walkways. The increase in traffic will be a danger to our community.
    In regards to having a child care centre so close to the beach is of a great concern. The location is quite secluded and remote without frequent passers by and if it was the case that a child was able to exit the facility then they would almost certainly be drawn to the beach which is only a hundred metres away.
    I also have concerns for the safety of the children given that there are often dangerous and deadly snakes in the area given the bush setting.
    I note that the DA also makes mention of a kiosk that would be open to the public. This is a child safety issue in that peadophiles would be able to essentially attend a child care centre to purchase coffee and sit in a nearby park and watch young children. According to NSW legislation there would be nothing illegal about a person on the child
    Protection register attending a business to purchase coffee. In addition to this as stated previously the area is secluded and this would then make the sapphire park area a haven for such predators to loiter given that they would be able to directly view young children from a close public park right into a child care centre.

    In relation to the fencing of the day care centre, there would not be a suitable solution as all options would be an eyesore to the park area.

    I object strongly to this rezoning and DA and ask the council to deny this application.

  18. Natalie Petrohelos commented

    We regularly holiday in this area and as a family with three children, this park is always a part of our holiday that our children (and we) look forward to. It’s also obviously a wonderful community space, as evidenced by the many local residents who are clearly distraught at potentially losing it. It’s also a reason for people to buy blocks of land and build new homes in the area, which in turn flows back into the Coffs economy. It’s an enormous draw card for Coffs coast tourism and it would be such a shame not only for locals but for tourists who might choose not to visit the area once the park is gone.

  19. Kristy wright commented

    We visit my sister who lives at saphire beach and the existing cafe and play area is a highlight for our family.
    I firmly believe a childcare centre will be detrimental to the current atmosphere.

  20. Lucy Winn commented

    Having a child care centre in this area would be a huge waste of such an amazing open space for recreation in our community. Where else do we have such a great open space which is open to all families where you can eat while watching your children play? As a sapphire beach resident we use the cafe a few times a week and was one of the main reasons for us moving to the area. There are so many places that would suit a child care centre why choose such a beautiful beachside location? It is difficult to find somewhere beachside to have a lunch in Coffs area as it is and now potentially taking away this one. Surely there are many cafe owners if not the current one who would be happy to make a go of this great space.

  21. Lily Bodenham commented

    This is so disappointing. The cafe and public area is what makes North Sapphire appealing and such a beautiful place. This is a community hub. I am concerned what this development will do the property value and appeal as this area is a massive draw card and gathering place for families in the area.

  22. Laura commented

    Will be extremely disappointed if this happens. Beachstone and the park is one of the reasons our family love living here, and I'm sure other residents of Sapphire will feel the same.

  23. Bec W commented

    I strongly object to this application.
    I don’t see why Sapphire Beach requires a childcare centre when there are two quite significant ones at Moonee, not to mention other surrounding areas.
    The location is not at all suitable for a childcare centre due to the in/out senario and the additional traffic that a childcare centre would create would be hugely detrimental to Sapphire Beach as a suburb for many reasons including the safety of residents and their children that are walking to bus stops etc in the peak drop off/pick up hours.
    Please don’t let this go through, it would be a huge mistake!!!

  24. Amy commented

    We chose North Sapphire to build our home purely for the family and community lifestyle that it provides.
    Being able to walk/ride bikes down to the local cafe and park with our family where kids can play and adults can relax with all the facilities the cafe provides. There is NO other cafe/park like this area and it draws in locals and tourists for that reason.
    It makes no sense to give a childcare centre priority to this purposely built space that brings people together and creates a sense of community. The whole of North Sapphire is essentially built and planned around this cafe as the congregational point where everyone meets, has bbqs and birthdays, weddings and special occasions.
    The new cafe operators have done an amazing job of creating a great atmosphere there, where people can come down on the weekend and enjoy live music, good food and good company.
    There are plenty of other places to build a childcare centre that does not take away Sapphire's appeal to locals and tourists.

  25. Lindsay Townsend commented

    Although I am not a frequent patron of the cafe I would hate to lose it or see it converted into a child minding centre. It is a focal point in the area and an adds to its attraction . In short it would put a dagger in the heart of this community.

  26. Genny Herbert commented

    Surely locating a child care centre is against the philosophy of the estate. I’m sure it’s also a fire risk as there is only one access road.
    We holiday in this estate and no coffee shop will change the reason we go there for family holidays.

  27. Miriam Bain commented

    My husband and I have stayed at the caravan park almost next door to this terrific cafe and community space and look forward to visiting it each time we stay at Sapphire Beach. We cant believe this is happening! If it ain't broken, don't try and fix it. The staff are fantastic and the community area is a unique one which we have never had the pleasure of one like it anywhere we have travelled in Australia. Its a hidden gem that we can't believe that the council would do this. The mind boggles with the reason behind it !!

  28. S commented

    NO,NO, NO! I highly object to this proposal of a childcare facility in our area. Beachstone cafe and playground is the hub of our community and all paths lead to this wonderful space where we can all meet, eat and socialize together.
    There is absolutely no need for a childcare centre in this area when we already have ones available in moonee and korora.
    Not to mention the fact that the increased traffic flow and parking capabilities would be horrendous on an already strained single road in and out of the park area.
    This will not only be detrimental to our community but also to our lifestyles in the northern sapphire estate!

  29. Kirralee Walter commented

    This is already an extremely popular meeting spot for the community, for families and kids parties. It’s a favorite of ours and it’d be extremely disappointing if this was replaced for another childcare centre. I believe there are plenty of other spots for a centre if this is so needed, that won’t impact on an already successful & popular community hotspot.

  30. Philip Talbot commented

    This DA is not in keeping with the original Master Plan approved by CHCC. I’m not involved in the Child Care industry but I believe there are already plenty of places available at existing facilities so another one will not only have a negative impact on them, but more importantly detract from the amenity that attracted us all to North Sapphire Estate. Listen up fellow residents, once Beachstones is gone, it’s gone forever.

  31. Emma Matthews commented

    This would be a devastating loss to this area & community. It would be a real shame to change the space into a childcare centre. I think it would seem strange to have a kiosk alongside, I don’t think people would want to gather outside or next to a child care centre. I know I wouldn’t! The two just don’t go together.

    This is a public park and it is just wonderful the way it is. It draws families from all areas. It is really unique & there are not many, if any, spots like this in this area. Its a super safe place for taking young children. A meeting spot for lots of young families and friends.

    I think changing this to a childcare centre would be detrimental to the mental health of mothers & caregivers who rely on this safe space and use it as an outlet to take their children.

    I don’t see why a childcare centre would need to be situated so close to the beach either! The public & community benefit far more from keeping it just the way it is.

    I strongly disagree with this application.

  32. Guy commented

    I will NOT support or send my children to the child care centre if it is approved. I have and will continue patronage of the cafe. This would totally wreck the community and atmosphere of Sapphire which is a really special place and rarity.

  33. Rory commented

    My family and I moved to the North Sapphire Estate a couple of years ago. The Beachstone Cafe and kids play area was a major draw card. We believe this Cafe has increased the value of our family home. The Cafe amongst other things was also a reason as to why the land was more expensive for us to purchase in the first place. North Sapphire Estate is a unique Estate as it has multiple parks, boardwalks, a beach and a great Cafe. What more could you want? I will NOT support or send my children to the child care centre. We send our children to another amazing child care centre which is ONLY 1 kilometre down the road in Moonee Beach.

  34. Patricia L. commented

    My spouse and I are frankly very disappointed that consideration would even be given to establishing a childcare centre where the café currently stands. We only moved to the area nine months ago, and as I searched locally around Coffs in the weeks prior for a place to live, the café was the clincher. It is not just a café operating during business hours on weekdays, but a handy spot for dog-walkers to grab a coffee while enjoying the purpose-built boardwalks that lead to it, a place for families with young kids to enjoy the playground, and as a weekend evening dining out and live music entertainment option too. It is also the ONLY sit-down dining/coffee venue within walking distance from our home, less than twenty minutes at a leisurely stroll from the far edge of North Sapphire. There are already two childcare centres in Moonee (an extremely short drive away for anybody local) plus other facilities in the other direction not much further away, and let’s admit it - when did you last see parents walking their children to childcare? They don’t, they all drive and drop them off as they head for work, so traffic on a small road, the only access and egress road, that already has very limited parking will become an even more pressing issue. Fencing around a childcare centre is never anything other than an eyesore, and a coffee kiosk will be just as accessible to paedophiles, with the convenience of a park to loiter in while children play closely. I hope greed doesn’t trump common sense, and that Council will acknowledge that a community outlet like Beachstone Café is a tremendous asset, not just to the café’s operators, but to the entire community.

  35. Mario Newman commented

    A Unique Family Friendly café in Coffs Harbour area especially important to the residents of the growing Northern Beaches area. My wife and I regularly walk to the beachstone café with our 2 grand kids , now 7 & 9 years old, for more than 3 years. They love an Ice Cream and we enjoy our coffee while being able to keep a watchful eye on them playing in the adjacent park. We also have regular family dinners there mainly during summer months during daylight saving for the same reason, safe for kids.
    By the way there is a child minding center only 5 minutes drive away at Moonee Beach so another one so close is not warranted.

    If this development goes ahead its a terrible betrayal by the developer who used the attraction of the Café as a sales pitch to attract buyers to this estate. The loss of the Café could potentially devalue the real estate in the immediate area. Council must ask us the Rate Payers for their opinion before granting approval.

    I Vote a Definite "NO".

  36. Stephen and Lois Austin commented

    You cannot be serious, Cougle investments. The Beachstone cafe is a fantastic place in a fantastic setting. great for families, their children, visitors and mothers groups. People have birthday parties, barbecues in the park. the cafe organises music bands engagements and all sorts of events. you have to reserve a table most of the time as it is that busy. a preschool is totally inappropriate for this site. We need the cafe!!!

  37. Andrew Simons commented

    No DA please - I respectfully request that council deny the application to change the zoning associated with the DA for the Beachstone Cafe.
    The cafe is a drawcard and an essential part of the fabric of the North Sapphire Beach community.
    Visitors to the area are in awe of the facility when they first visit the site and residents depend upon it as a vital part of their ongoing family life.
    Such a precious commodity to the community must be valued and preserved by Coffs Harbour Council - not taken away.

    Thank you

  38. John K commented

    I would like to add my voice to objecting to the DA currently with CHCC regarding changing the use of the Beachstone Cafe from Cafe to Child Care Center.

    As the other people before me have indicated, this space was designated by the developer for the community of North Sapphire Beach as a gathering space for community and social bonding, and this was a major factor in my family choosing to live here.

    The Cafe has fostered a bond in this community and it is a very important aspect that CHCC is required to examine with a DA. Whilst I'm sure Cougle & Petersen Consulting Group's have meet many of the statutory requirements for a child care center to satisfy a DA, they leave one important part out. The spirit and sense of community that this space has and continue to provide with a Cafe / Park.

    The Moonee commercial space have 2 child care centers only 5 minutes from Sapphire Beach. Do we need a third here ? I am not aware of the demand for more as the Traffic Impact Assessment - Weaver Consulting has pointed out. (Not sure how an objective traffic assessment incorporates an subjective comment)

    Please consider the views of the people of Sapphire Beach Estate and how this space is managed.

  39. Jamie commented

    Please NO! I take my children to this park all the time, if it becomes a child care facility it will not be well accepted by anyone i know.

  40. Coralie cherrett commented

    When we visited sapphire beach we felt the cafe and play park were such a special part of the community. It would be a massive shame for them to loose this. It was what made the area stand out.

  41. Benjamin mansell commented

    No thank you. The residents are made up of parents with young families or grandparents. The public park is such an important part of the residential community. Please do not change it.
    Being this far out of COFFS it is so essential to have a service that we can walk to. The cafe and park provide this. Take it away and we will be forced to drive somewhere which will add traffic to the road.

  42. Kristle McKinnon commented

    Please keep this park/cafe as is. It is a wonderful place for families and their children. Would be such a shame to lose it. A child care facility will bring too much traffic and there is not enough parking for such a facility.

  43. Julia and Jonathan commented

    What a loss this would be to the community.
    I visit my family who live here and walk with the children to this wonderful hub of the community.
    What a terrible shame it would be to lose this.
    Surely it would be so short sighted to pass this as the impact on the traffic and community life would be huge.

  44. Kate commented

    It would be a travesty to turn Beachstone into a child care centre. In fact, I vote we turn more child care centres in cafes.
    If parents require the outsourcing of raising their own children, perhaps they should consider family day care and leave the decent cafes alone.

  45. Jeremy commented

    No thanks, Please leave it the way it is,
    A truly unique Cafe and Park, so close to beach, There isn't another spot in whole north coast like it.
    Where else can parents enjoy a meal and their kids can play within view.
    Our kids love the park there, and anything that gets them away from technology has to be good.
    Surely this was approved as Cafe when the whole of the subdivision was submitted years ago. Whats Changed?
    Hopefully this application is denied.

  46. Jo Roberts commented

    We have had the great pleasure of visiting this area with our kids several times in the past few years and the playpark and cafe have been brilliant. They were well attended and used by others in the community so it would be a real shame if they had to close.

  47. Hamish Cherrett commented

    This development would be a huge loss to the community that has grown up around this hub. It's very hard to see how the change would benefit and with so many families living around here it seems madness to permit such a development.

  48. Sam Webber commented

    After visiting my family, it is clear that this space is used as a hub for the community living around it. Would be a real shame to take that away. It's a place for families to meet up to allow adults and children to socialise. This can't happen

  49. Katlin commented

    I object strongly to this rezoning and DA and ask the council to deny this applicatioN.

  50. Afia Kharouf commented

    The removal of this hub would highly disadvantage the residents if this area. Its a place that gives the families living in the area a sense of community and its a place that brings many people together.
    Additionally, having a childrencare facility there would worsen traffic and there are many areas available for this purpose! There is no need to take something so pivotal to the community away.

  51. Sam Sufferin commented

    This is a special area to a lot of people and of high importance to the local community. I visit frequently when staying with relatives nearby and it is always busy, with a real community feel. It acts as a meeting place for people of all ages and will be such an inconvenience for those having to go elsewhere if it changes. In my opinion it would also take away from the appeal of the area for future buyers.

  52. Paul Tobias commented

    As a long term resident of the area i strongly object to this application.
    lifestyle was a major selling feature of this estate and all residents of the estate paid a premium for it. The cafe/restaurant is the
    focal point, used by many of the locals. A safe and enjoyable space to watch the children playing whilst enjoying a coffee or a meal. Approval of this child care center will detract aesthetically,( perimeter fencing) increase traffic,reduce public car parking, and reduce the value of real estate in the immediate area.The developers so called hole in the wall cafe will last 5 minutes and as soon as it becomes nonviable to continue we will be left with simply a child minding centre. If this is approved and fails, what next? a petrol station? come on cougal's and council, the development is one of the best on the east coast of Australia don't destroy it for commercial greed.
    THIS APPLICATION MUST BE REJECTED!

  53. Dave Schwarz commented

    This is surely an easy DA to knock back!
    I preface my remarks by stating I don't live in C.H., but I regularly visit family at Sapphire Beach and always go to the local café for lunch.
    It is apparent to me that local residents (and after all they're surely the one's who count) don't want another child care centre, they want to retain their suburb as it always has been, a wonderful, peaceful enclave in which to live. Additionally, the café/public open space was a major selling feature of the estate when these locals bought their properties, it is outrageous that at the whim of one property owner and a few compliant councillors this may all be overturned.

    Furthermore, the proposed change will see a significant increase in local traffic as the only access is through suburbia. Surely this will increase the road safety risks for children playing on the nature strips/road in this subdivision, which has small blocks with minimal yards already.

    I am reliably informed that there is a glut of child care spaces already in the Coffs area, there is seemingly no demand for yet another one. It would appear this whole DA is motivated by greed; make the existing café site a better earner by replacing it with a child care centre paying more rent, or increase the value of the property for a sale by changing from an already approved use to something nobody wants! Of course, what many ignore is the federal government subsidises child care - this is why a child care centre can afford to pay more rent than a cafe; in effect local residents taxes are being used to artificially inflate the earning capacity of a block of land for one local owner to the detriment of all the other local owners! Yes, their own money is being used against them!

    Coffs Harbour council has a reputation for bad planning decisions; to allow this change would be just another one.

  54. Janice commented

    Extremely disappointed to hear about the proposed change from café to child care. We have recently moved to Sapphire Beach and take pleasure in visiting the café, meeting family there and also taking our visitors there for coffee or a meal.
    I am very concerned regarding the increase of traffic, especially at the Nth Sapphire and Nth Solitary Rds intersection. It has restricted viewing around the bend in the road near the intersection and I have encountered many occurrences where cars have slightly crossed over lanes and/or suddenly put their brakes on to turn into Nth Sapphire Rd. An accident waiting to happen?
    I also have concerns for the visual changes to the building, eg: a security fence, part of full, around the building café will make it look unsightly and a tree here or there won't make any difference. A hole in the wall café? Really!
    The small amount of parking is already an issue, especially in summer and school holidays and the amount of parking spaces which would be taken by child care employees will only make it worse. Visitors to the beach/park would be forced out on to the local streets to park.
    I am really surprised that a child care facility would be proposed so close to a non-patrolled beach.
    Strongly object to this application.

  55. Steven commented

    I strongly object to this development application. I would hope that Council acts appropriately to block this application. The number of objections already lodged is a clear indication from the public, especially local residents, that this proposal is against the wishes and basic expectations of those familiar with this area.
    As a nearby resident we purchased on the understanding of this form of amenity being available in the area. The existing cafe provides a community hub and being an access point for the local beach is well placed as it is. The proposal for a childcare centre at this location completely changes the amenity of this local area and would devalue properties accordingly. I would also be concerned with the expected increase in higher-speed "drop-off" vehicles rushing to get children to and from the child care centre on a daily basis - mixing with local road traffic and children in otherwise quiet street. The nature of this type of traffic movement is much different to that associated with cafe patrons.
    There would also need to be perimeter fencing associated with the childcare facility and this would further heavily detract from the amenity of the area and the focal point of this local area's access point to the beach.

    Regarding the "hole in the wall" coffee shop arrangement I am confident that this is simply a ploy to soften the blow of the cafe removal. There would be no obligation for this to be staffed or operated once the childcare facility was operational, and lets face it, it doesn't sound like a great add-on either.

    PLEASE REJECT THIS DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION !!

  56. Simon Young commented

    As a Sapphire Beach resident, I am bitterly disappointed by this development application.The cafe was used as inducement to get people to buy into this community, and I believe we all paid a premium for that privilege. In the law of contracts an inducement is a pledge or promise that causes an individual to enter into a particular agreement. It seems to me unreasonable at law to rescind that inducement now that all the land has been sold. I suspect the Department of Fair Trading will have a strong interest in the proposal, and I certainly intend to lodge a complaint with them to that effect.

    As senior age residents, my wife and I, are very attracted to having a cafe nearby. We use it regularly to socialise with friends and family. As we become older and less mobile, we were counting on the cafe to fulfil a large chunk of our social needs given that it's within easy walking distance, and designed with the mobility of the elderly in mind. A kiosk simply wont fulfil that social need, and I suspect we will become more socially isolated as we get older if the cafe no longer exists. In my view, the removal of the cafe in favour of a child care centre appears to be a thoughtless act of discrimination against the elderly in our community.

    I am also very concerned about the impact this child care centre will have on traffic volume turning into North Sapphire Road from the already dangerous North Solitary Drive intersection. It has the potential to add another 80 to 100 movements thru this intersection each morning and afternoon at a time when school age children are making their way either across or through this intersection on their way to the school bus stop. The right hand turn into North Sapphire turn is particularly dangerous If this DA is approved, Council will need to consider remedial work to render this intersection safe.

    My property backs on to North Sapphire Road, and I am equally concerned about how the additional road noise will impact my right to peaceful enjoyment of my property.

    Having read the Executive Summary of the Bushfire Certifiers Report appended to the DA, I remain unconvinced that the asset protection zones have been properly assessed given the extent to which the proposal extends the new asset towards the bush. I propose we seek an independent professional assessment, and raise any issues accordingly.

    I am also concerned that the proposed alterations to the existing asset do not conform with the covenant for this estate. Again, I propose that we seek an independent assessment of this, and raise any issues accordingly.

    I would strongly urge that council deny this application for all the reasons listed above.

  57. Simon Young commented

    Having reviewed the architectural drawings for this DA, its clear that there are some failures to conform with the covenant of this estate by which all residents are bound as follows,

    1. Front fences must not dominate the streetscape amenity.
    2. Residences must be visible from the street through fences with low height and open
    structure
    3. Colorbond or corrugated iron must not be used on front fences
    4. Fence types should be visually permeable with a minimum of 25% visual
    permeability for all fence types.
    5. Fencing should be limited to a maximum length of 50% of the allotment frontage.

    I suspect there are statutory requirements for child care centres in NSW requiring complete visual enclosure. Certainly the drawings of the architect would indicate that to be so. If that's the case, then these requirements are at odds with the covenant, thus reinforcing that this venture is unsuitable on this estate.

  58. Zahli commented

    My family always use the cafe area as a place to celebrate special occasions and meet up with others to enjoy the surroundings- including park area. This application will destroy the area, bring unnecessary traffic and decay the community spirit this area has established.

  59. Tracy H commented

    We purchased land here and built a home in North Sapphire Beach, because it offered
    Parklands, community space and the cafe. The cafe was marketed as a community resource along with the playground. We would use this facility at least twice a week.
    We already have 2 childcare facilities less than a kilometre away at Moonee Beach and another one at Emerald Beach. I don’t understand the need for a child care facility also at Sapphire. Let our community keep the purpose built cafe and surrounds that we have.

  60. Dave Schwarz commented

    Dear Council

    I have already objected to this proposed development a couple of days ago, but having listened to the developer on Prime News tonight (Friday) I must make another point. Again, I'm spelling out I live elsewhere but I visit family who live there quite often and always utilise the cafe facility.

    The developer has, as justification on tv tonight, suggested he's invested an enormous amount of money into the Sapphire Beach development with an unsatisfactory return. Without seeing his accounts, I have no idea if that's true, who knows what return he has achieved.

    However, rumour has it that the cafe pays around $1600 a week rent. What would a government subsidised child care centre yield in rent I wonder, let's say a generous $3000 a week. So, let's say theoretically that maybe that's $80,000 a year difference in income if the DA is allowed. On a project the size of the Sapphire Beach development that is absolute peanuts, hardly worth the bother, probably adjusts the received rate of return upwards by maybe 0.1%?

    Having already put a huge premium on small block sale prices because of the parkland and cafe facilities, it is beyond belief the developer now wants it both ways - he's already pocketed the premium, now he wants to get rid of the reason the premium was paid and profit still further!

    Appalling greed, please refuse this DA!

  61. Sharon Blake commented

    I oppose the change of use of the café building to a childcare facility. My family purchased our block in North Sapphire Road, Sapphire Beach, on the premise that community recreation facilities, including the beachfront café, formed an integral part of the community development of North Sapphire Beach Estate. We paid a premium for our land based on this premise. We have original marketing and contract documentation that proves this. The community look and feel of this development was a key consideration when we purchased our block from the same developer that now seeks to renege on the promise of the community café space.
    The café is a fundamental part of the ethos of the North Sapphire Beach community development. It was an original lure for buyers into this area and remains so to the present day. I am utterly outraged by what appears to be greed on the part of the developer to turn an important community facility into a child care centre that is not only not required in this area, but will have a significant impact on our community. If the developer had genuine community interest at heart, they would build a child care centre in the Coffs Harbour city area for 0 to 5 years, where there are clear demographic needs for not only infant care but also care located where it is required.
    As a property owner on North Sapphire Road, I am extremely concerned about the increase in traffic on our non-arterial road. This road is already dangerous with a blind corner at its intersection with North Solitary Road and the proposed child care centre will see a significant increase in traffic during peak periods. This is of a considerable danger to school children who walk and cross both roads during times when, if the proposed child care centre is developed, parents would be dropping off and picking up their children from the centre.
    Therefore, I strongly oppose this proposed development and I would hope that Coffs Harbour City Council would seek to deny this development application on behalf of the residents of North Sapphire Beach Estate so that the amenity of our community, including the café, recreation and open space facilities, are upheld and preserved for the future.

  62. Shane Newton commented

    As a resident of North Sapphire Estate, I am extremely concerned about the application to change the amenity of our open space from a café (gathering place for the community members) to a Childcare centre. We were sold a lifestyle and this is now threatened!
    My other main concern is the peak traffic movements along North Sapphire Rd and The intersection to North Solitary Rd. This is an extremely difficult intersection for adults and children to traverse at the best of times, let alone peak school periods when our children are walking to the bus stop. Even though there may not be a large change in the number of traffic movements per day, the peak periods of pick up and drop off for the day care centre coincide with the times our children are on the roads.
    Summing up, I strongly object to a daycare centre being built adjacent to our main communal space as we live on a 400 m2 block, this is our 'Back yard' and this totally goes against the "vision" the Cougle family sold us when we purchased directly from them 9 years ago.

  63. Beth Agland commented

    I feel for the residents that were enticed into buying into this prestige estate. The cafe and the adjoining playground and it's pathways were a big drawcard in promoting & selling the blocks of land. Purchasers most likely payed a premier price to have these facilities at their doorstep. Now that all the stages have been developed and blocks sold, it is odd that they choose now to withdraw it's biggest drawcard. The cafe has always been leased and it's popularity has only increased. A childcare centre will only have a negative impact on this area. It is currently a community hub that brings all ages together, this is because the cafe and playground blend well. By removing the cafe, it will be removing the comfort and the appeal of this space. And, more importantly ruining a strong sense of community which is a rare commodity in these times.

  64. Gareth Marchant commented

    The change of use to Childcare Centre is not in keeping with the design intent of the estate and is direct contrast to the sense of community the existing park, playground and cafe provides.

    The cafe is a local hub for all residents, children and pets to meet and relax in comfortable surroundings. A childcare centre would, in my opinion, ruin the space and lead to an area that is not used by the community. I strongly oppose the DA as it provides no tangible benefits to the North Sapphire community whilst removing a much loved and highly utilised community space.

  65. Angela Vandenbosch commented

    The community of Sapphire Beach support and enjoy the lifestyle and facilities that Beachstone Cafe provide not only to the residents but tourists to the area. One of the attractive qualities of having a cafe in Sapphire is being able to enjoy a meal and live entertainment walking distance from our home. A childcare facility is not the right fit for this space that so many people enjoy. Please consider the greater community involved in this application and a more future orientated decision of what is needed - not a child are facility right here in such an iconic beach front spot that a broad range of people both with and without children enjoy.

  66. Catrina commented

    I would like to lodge my objection to the DA being put forth to turn the Beachstones Cafe into a child care facility. I live on North Sapphire Road and have serious concerns for the increase traffic a child care facility would bring to the area. Specifically in the mornings and afternoons when there are many children going to and from school walking to the bus. I have on multiple occasions seen children nearly run over by cars entering or leaving the estate. An increase in traffic brings with it major concerns that one of these children could be hurt or killed.

    We frequent the cafe and it was one of the reasons we bought our home in the area. We love being able to go down for a coffee, breakfast, lunch or dinner whilst we watch our children play in the park with our fellow neighbours and friends children.

    Our community is all about family friendly but with so many other childcare choices close by this isn’t a needed and or wanted facility within our estate.

  67. Paul Butcher commented

    We do not support the proposed application.

    The main reason for our objection is that we do not believe it complies with
    the ethos of the new estate which was promoted to us when purchasing. North Sapphire provides an opportunity to incorporate an intergrated community and we were sold our blocks with the promotion around the cafe.

    A childcare facility also means more traffic and especially at the junction of Beach Way where there will be kids only metres away from a street entrance. There are regular issues with parking at the cafe which will be magnified with a childcare centre during drop off and pickup and and along with the poor vision around street corners this will more than likely lead to major accidents especially with kids being dropped off. In saying this I do not believe that their assessment of potential traffic issues and it’s impact have been assessed appropriately.

  68. John Callen commented

    When we purchased our land to relocate and build our house, one of the main attractions was the provision of the cafe. To have this taken away would make us feel we had been led astray by the developers. I really don’t see how a child care centre can be needed or beneficial to the area, and the traffic congestion created would be horrendous.

  69. Kylie Ragles commented

    Why would this be appropriate to put a child in the middle of a public thoroughfare.

  70. Kylie Eagles commented

    Why would this be appropriate to put a childcare in the middle of a busy public thoroughfare.
    I Airbnb my home out to international and Australian visitors. I don’t think children should be placed in the center of the public thoroughfare.

  71. Mathew Hale commented

    One of the main reasons we bought in the estate was the location of the Beachstone Cafe.
    The whole sales pitch included the cafe as a huge draw card by the developers and now the same developer wants to betray all the families who purchased his land to make their homes, by taking away the community hub of the place.
    The cafe is for everyone to enjoy and a child care centre is NOT!

  72. Andrew Lucas commented

    Currently the Beachstone Cafe acts as a party venue with very loud music up until midnight. This is accompanied by drunken adults vomiting, yelling and leaving glass and rubbish at the playground and beach. Being a close neighbour, I have discussed this with them a number of times and it seems to get worse. An operating day café is fine however a party venue in a residential area is very antisocial and does not encourage any sense of community. I would happily welcome a daycare if this is the only way to fix this situation. Realistically I cannot see how the traffic flow would change.

  73. Catherine Yeomans commented

    I would like to register my objection to this Development Application to change the use of these premises from a cafe to a Child Care Centre.

    My reasons are as follows:

    1. The planning for the North Sapphire Beach estate had very strict design guidelines, which have been adhered to by all residents building on the estate. It is unconscionable for the Developer of the Estate to now seek a change of use for the commercial site (the Beachstone Cafe) that would entertain non-adherence to those very same design guidelines.

    2. The traffic impacts are considerable, within peak times during every week day. If the proposed child care centre has 40 places there could be up to 40 additional vehicle movements, in and out of the Estate each morning, and in and out each evening, all within a very concentrated period of time. The impact on roads and traffic will be considerable compared to the traffic impacts of the existing Cafe.

    3. Now that all the residential land has been sold on the Estate, could the Developer seeking a change of use of the commercial land, as is proposed in this DA, in order to sell that last parcel of freehold land as a commercial asset with 'highest and best use' from a leasehold perspective? Surely it is relevant for consideration by Council that we should not be facilitating profit-taking when considering development applications but rather be preferencing the needs of the local community?

    4. There are already a number of early learning centres in the local area, including 2 at Moonee, 2 at Emerald Beach, a number at Woolgoolga and many more at Coffs Harbour. Therefore there is no unmet need to address concerns that the Developer profits further at the expense of the amenity of the local community.

    I would ask Council to reject this Development Application.

    thankyou

  74. Craig Speirs commented

    The change of use to Childcare Centre is not in keeping with the design intent of the estate and is direct contrast to the sense of community the existing park, playground and cafe provides.

    The cafe is the only place for locals and visitors to meet and relax in Sapphire. A childcare centre would take this needed area away from the community. I oppose the DA as it provides no benefit to the Sapphire beach community and people visiting our area.

  75. Carly commented

    Keep the cafe. It is iconic to the community. There are enough day care centres not running at full capacity as it is.
    The extra traffic will not be safe as many people walk or ride the streets daily.
    Coastal erosion is also another factor. A daycare centre in Newcastle was shut down due to this risk.
    Being so close to the water is also a huge risk factor. Children do escape daycare centres.
    The 1.8 metre fence that legally has to be erected around a daycare centre will be an eyesore.
    Listen to what the community wants.
    Say no to a daycare centre and keep the cafe open. It is the hub of the community with many social groups going there because of the beautiful atmosphere it provides.

  76. david malone commented

    After a bit of reading of the DA I find the staff level is wrong for a start for ten children their is 1 staff member plus that teacher has to have lunch so another teacher has to be there that makes 5 staff plus they have indicated a nappy change room which is for children under 3 yr of age, the staffing requirement then changes to 1 teacher per 5 children under 3 at all times and the younger ones have to be separate to the older children.
    Parking is for the community a child care centre has to have its own parking for drop off and pick up.
    Unless all the other child care centres are full to the brim in Coffs Harbour this centre will not survive.
    The fire risk is high and does not met requirements for child care centres including 1 road in only
    The owners have clearly stated in the open meeting its just about more money for them and that says it all

  77. Anne commented

    The roads are not wide enough to support the increased traffic a childcare centre would bring. The loss of the community gathering area and cafe is concerning.
    No child care centre at Beachstone!

  78. Georgina and Troy Brown commented

    On behalf of my husband and myself we wish to strongly object to the da application proposed to build a childcare center. This is not in keeping with what the community had assumed they were buying into on the brochures and it is not something we want to drive past when going to our house which is the closest to the cafe .It is also a concern that it will devalue our land particularly the blocks on the beachfront that are so close to the lovely cafe and community space . It’s not in keeping with the building codes building an ugly building which blocks off the view of the park with a high wall. Council has an obligation to say no to development that is not supportive of community sentiment

  79. Andrew commented

    Over 70 comments and lots of well made points, community is united that a childcare centre and close to 100 extra car movements a day is a dangerous and bad idea.

    In terms of the cafe, whilst the owner gets rent regardless of the cafe’s performance, it might be worth all those in favour of keeping the cafe putting words in to action and showing support (if they haven’t already done so) by being consistent ambassadors for the cafe - buy a daily coffee or occasional smoothie on your way to work, drop in for breakky or lunch over the next few weeks during the week, make plans for dinner with family and friends - yes council has an obligation to make the right call here with the community in mind, but the community have an obligation to support both council in confirming they are making the right call by leaving the cafe as is; and we can also support ensure those who are financially invested in the cafe see that the community will follow through their words with actions to keep the local cafe in business by being frequent patrons.

    So let’s all ensure there is a constant stream of local foot traffic to the cafe to prevent any further threats to this feature that the overwhelming majority are in favour of keeping.

  80. Tai Florian commented

    I feel totally disappointed that the Land where the Beachstone cafe is currently located is now being considered for development into a childcare facility.
    The area where the Beachstone cafe is located is a great space for the local people who live in that area to come together without driving into Coffs Harbour.
    Why come along and destroy it ?
    Has financial gains for this new development become more important to councillors than supporting a good local community?
    Having this fantastic respectable community is by far more long term effective for Coffs Harbour than coming along with this new development plan and ripping apart this community.

    Stop! Really take the time to Listen to the community that live out there!! Don’t destroy what the residents have created and built up in their area. Many of them have built their homes out there knowing that there would be less traffic congestion in the area. Sadly the proposed childcare facility may now devalue their homes.

    I don’t live in the area but have visited many times and love the spirited energy at the location where Beachside Cafe is located.

    Please don’t ignore or overlook your community pleas!!
    Make the right decision!

  81. Rebecca Saunders commented

    We could have bought land at Emerald Beach or Sawtell or even up-and-coming Woolgoolga, but we decided on Sapphire Beach purely because of the lifestyle. In fact, of the 16-page glossy brochure produced by the developer, two pages (12.5%) was devoted to the lifestyle provided by Beachstone cafe. (I can supply a copy of brochure on request). What promises were made to the Council when the developer sought approval to subdivide the land? Surely part of the Council approval was based on quantity and quality of open and/or community spaces. The Beachstone Cafe was a HUGE selling point when I bought my land. Like other residents, I have invested a considerable amount of time and money to build a structure and landscaping that complied with the master planned community's rigorous design guidelines. The location of the Beachstone Cafe is perfect in it's current function because it is a gathering point for family and community. It was my understanding that approval for such small blocks (like ours in final Sugarmill release) was contingent on the surrounding open space and public gathering space as supplied by Beachstone cafe and adjacent playground. Beachstone provides an integral part of socialization for many residents. Importantly, the Beachstone Cafe is inclusive of all age groups. The openness and accessibility of the cafe promotes a healthy and happy quality of life for residents. I suggest that the proximity of the Beachstone Cafe to the beach makes it highly unsuitable to be used as a child care for the following reasons; the coastal habitat is a breeding ground for the venomous Red-bellied Black snake and Eastern Brown snake, both of which are frequently sighted within the vicinity of the cafe and are protected by Australian law under the Conservation Act of 1992. The ratio of supervisory adults in a childcare setting is far fewer than parents monitoring their children at the cafe and playground so the risk of a child coming into contact with a venomous snake is increased. It is my understanding that on a few occasions, people have removed snakes from the grass, close to the building. Another concern is the location of a childcare center so close to the beach board walk access. Having multiple strangers passing by the center and having children in full view of those passing, increases the likelihood of attracting pedophiles to our community. The location next to the beach also increases the possibility of a child wondering off and drowning. Aesthetically, any alteration to the current structure to increase child safety would be unacceptable to the homeowners who purchased their land/homes with the understanding that the Beachstone Cafe structure was purpose built as a cafe and playground to be used as a gathering space for community as a way to offset smaller blocks of land as represented in the in the original masterplan of our North Sapphire Beach community. I further comment that the size of the proposed childcare centre would be so small that it would support only a small number of children, and therefore, would only service a dozen or so members of our community where a cafe serves over a hundred members of the community daily, with several hundred visiting the cafe/playground on a weekly basis. It should also be pointed out that the proposed “hole in the wall coffee kiosk” in no way would replace the current cafe. Please do not approve this application and please support its continued purpose built use as a cafe.

  82. Gwen Crick commented

    This community space is used all year round by us locals and the coffee shop is a great meeting place for locals and tourists. A child care centre would deter people from the area and increase traffic and noise in the area.
    We live in the area and love our local coffee shop and community space right by the beach!

  83. Geoff Clerke commented

    I do not support the application based on the following:-
    1. I do not believe the application complies with the Neighbourhood Management Statement drawn up by the original owner. "Annexure A to Amendment of Management Statement - (F) Text of added by-law - 1.1(a) North Sapphire Beach provides an opportunity to establish an integrated community that compliments the sites natural surrounds, embracing the beach and breezes. Contemporary beach architecture will be embodied in the dwellings and landscaping to be constructed on the site." My interpretation is for the whole estate to be established with a beach lifestyle feel and I cannot see that a child care centre meets these ideals.
    2. Should a child care centre be approved it would mean fencing the child care property. This in turn would limit the access to the council park behind the building to the eastern side of the current building and/or the pathway on the western side of the community access road. What this actually means in practise is that persons visiting the park will be forced to use the community access road on the western side of the property as an access to the park creating an even more dangerous traffic situation.

  84. Timothy Lisciotto commented

    I strongly object to the da application proposed to build a childcare center. This cafe was a major selling point when we bought our land. The loss of the cafe and what it currently offers the local community and visitors would be a real shame.
    A childcare center so close to a dangerous unpatrolled beach doesn't make much sense.

  85. Kirra commented

    Beachstone Cafe and parkland was the selling point for us building our home and after selling, buying another house within the same estate and paying premium prices due to the facilities advertised upon purchase.

    Although we are a young family ourselves, majority of North sapphire beach estate residents consist of retirees who will not utilise the proposed centre, not to mention the area being extremely unsuitable for a childcare centre.

  86. Patrick commented

    The cafe is a social hub for the community every day and especially on weekends this development application for a childcare centre should be refused. As a holiday destination this DA is limiting destinations for holiday makers such as me.

  87. Karen Wright commented

    I am very disappointed and object to the proposal that the Beachstone Cafe may be replaced by a child care centre. The area is used by residents and visitors to relax and enjoy the open space and access the unique cafe. I was involved in a community... yes community.. '.opera by the sea' music concert held at the cafe and surrounding grounds a few years ago. This area should be for all people not just one group. Please do not allow this application to proceed.

  88. Kelly Keith commented

    A child care facility would detract from this beautiful community space that is unique and available to everyone. Many families gather here regularly it’s a very special place. As a teacher I know child care services have rigorous requirements with parking and access for parking for staff and families to safely drop off and pickup children. These childcare facilities operate 52 weeks of the year. This would impact during peak seasons for tourism and local access , the school holidays all would impact on the local community. Increased infrastructure and traffic in these quiet residential areas makes no sense. Childcare service are better positioned closer to other facilities and services and centrally located for improved access by those that need it most. Just like when we position schools and shops. I’ve stayed here often, enjoyed weddings, family gatherings it’s a beautiful natural place. This area is a very popular family playspace and gathering for locals and tourists alike. It would be a shame if this unique community space was lost.

  89. Scott Keith commented

    This is a great spot that encourages the community to get together
    We frequently holiday in this area and this is definitely our favourite location to meet our friends I feel this would detrimental and strongly
    Disagree.

  90. Cindy commented

    The beach stone cafe is such a beautiful place for the community to enjoy and was a draw card for many to Saphire beach , we have attended special occasions at the cafe weddings , family outings, it would be such a shame if it were to change, A preschool is not suited to this area , limited parking, increased traffic to the area, isolated area is just not suitable, I strongly disagree

  91. Robyn Norman commented

    I bought my property at Sapphire Beach 12 months ago and was surprised to hear of the DA for a childcare centre at the Beachstone Cafe locality.
    Taking away this convenient popular cafe would be an immense loss to the local community. The cafe is a great location for locals and visitors to meet up for drinks, meals, music and a playground for the kids.
    A childcare centre is not needed as there are plenty in the Coffs area.
    A 'hole in the wall' coffee bar would not suffice for the residents and ratepayers who value the convenience of having the cafe close by.

  92. Jeannine Anne Young commented

    I am very disappointed that the owners of the Beachstone Café want to convert it to a child care centre. There are lots of child care centres already in our vicinity, and many of them have vacancies. What we do lack in this suburb, (and indeed the greater area), is amenities for adults. The removal of the café will strip us of a much needed community amenity. This will be particularly hard on older folk in our community such as my husband and I. The café fills a large section of our social activity, and we hoping that it would continue to do so in future as we become less mobile. There are lots of older folk in the Sapphire Beach Community who have no need for child care, but do have a need for age appropriate community facilities.

  93. James commented

    The Beachstone is a true coastal gem, my kid's and I have some of our fondest holidaying memories there. In it's short history it has become an integral part of a growing community that we visit regularly to see family and friends. To lose the Beachstone from the community would be devastating and simply can not happen.

  94. Jo and Tim commented

    It would be a huge disappointment to lose such a beautiful community space used by many all year round. We moved here for the lifestyle and the nearby café and parklands were a deciding factor.

    Would you risk sending your child to a centre that close to an unpatrolled and not so safe beach? I certainly wouldn’t! I don’t care how tall the fence is or how well trained the staff are… kids are kids.

    If there is a need for another childcare centre this is NOT the place.

    Strongly disagree!

  95. Barbara and Larry Evans commented

    I totally agree with Jeannine Anne Young. My husband and I are an older couple too.
    We moved here from Sydney three years ago and have enjoyed time spent with our family at the Cafe. Our visitors have also enjoyed a place to meet and a park area for their children to play.
    My husband an I enjoyed A Christmas in July night that the cafe hosted. Surely there must be plenty of childcare centre in the area without having to demolish the Bluestone Cafe that many people here have come to love and enjoy.

  96. Timothy B commented

    Terrible location for a child care centre!
    We love our Beachstone Cafe and parklands! We regularly take our grandchildren to the park and enjoy a coffee or lunch at the cafe.
    It would be pretty unfair to take these facilities away from residents when they where a major reason for locating to the area.

  97. Dion commented

    This is very disappointing to hear that the cafe could close down, to make way for a child care centre.
    I’m not from Coffs Harbour but holiday there twice a year and we stay close by this amazing little cafe and parklands.
    Coming from the city why in the world would you consider building this in the park right next to a very beautiful beach and picnic area.
    We would love something like this at home and see this happen far to often.
    There are plenty more places to build child care centres. This will definitely make us reconsider visiting, we may just go to Byron Bay because they don’t build these type of building in parklands.
    Just a side note parking would be a night mare.
    Hope you reconsider.

  98. Dion commented

    This is very disappointing to hear that the cafe could close down, to make way for a child care centre.
    I’m not from Coffs Harbour but holiday there twice a year and we stay close by this amazing little cafe and parklands.
    Coming from the city why in the world would you consider building this in the park right next to a very beautiful beach and picnic area.
    We would love something like this at home and see this happen far to often.
    There are plenty more places to build child care centres. This will definitely make us reconsider visiting, we may just go to Byron Bay because they don’t build these type of building in parklands.
    Just a side note parking would be a night mare.
    Hope you reconsider.

  99. Nicholas James Lisciotto commented

    Beach stone cafe has always been a go to spot for me and my family, it’s perfect for the kids to play in the playground and close to the beach. There are plenty of places to build childcare centres and taking away this cafe from the community would be a huge loss. The parking would also be a crazy for us locals and the traffic and noise would affect all in the area. Please choose wisely as this community needs this beloved cafe.

  100. Becky Brideoake commented

    I strongly object this application. The cafe is the heart of sapphire and both the new and old sapphire beach estates use it and the surrounding playing ground. Why take away the cafe, something that adds to the quality of life and is used by a majority of the area and replace it with a childcare centre that would only suit a small percentage of the population here. There is no need for a childcare centre, more than half the of families living in sapphire have no children at home or have children aged 15+. There are more than enough vacancies in childcare centres around Coffs. Not to mention how dangerous it is to have a childcare centre so close to a public beach, one that is frequented by travelers/backpackers/ and venomous snakes.

  101. Natalie Van der Klei commented

    This is a beautiful playground, wonderful shelters for family friendly gatherings and a great spot to relax with a cuppa or coffee from the cafe. Going ahead with this change would be detrimental for the community.

  102. Leonie M. commented

    I strongly object to the proposed re-zoning of this lovely Cafe for the purpose of a Childcare Centre, the need for which is questionable. I believe this would be a dreadful loss, not only to the local Residents but also to Visitors to the area. There are limited dining areas in and around Coffs Harbour where you can not only enjoy a delicious meal (freshly prepared from mostly locally sourced produce) adjacent to a playground for the kids and then take a stroll on the nearby beach.
    The fact that the Developer used the Beachstone Cafe as a selling point indicates to me that Residents purchased land under false pretences.
    Also, I believe it is not safe to have a Childcare Centre so close to an unpatrolled beach as children have been known to scale the best “childproof” fences in a very short time, so this could well be a tragedy waiting to happen.
    Please Councillors, I respectfully request that you reject this application for a Childcare Centre.

  103. Amanda commented

    We would like to object to the DA for a Childcare centre at the Beachstone location. We frequent the cafe and have celebrated many occasions, birthdays etc, at the cafe while the children play. We love being able to go down for a coffee, breakfast, lunch or dinner whilst we watch our children play in the park. It’s such a unique feature of North Sapphire it would be sad to lose it.

  104. Brooke Lewin commented

    Beachstone Cafe was a huge selling point for my family when we bought our block of land im North Sapphire. It has a sense of community and such a lovely place to go for families and visitors to the area. There is no other place in Coffs like it.
    I’m extremely disappointed that a child care centre could potentially replace the cafe. Although it’s suggested there would be a shop front cafe next to the childcare centre and the playground will remain I doubt it would have the same vibe. I have 2 children in daycare but I would not change childcare centres just to be in walking distance. A lot of young families I know and have spoken to in this estate said the same. I also don’t think it’s a very safe area for it being so close to an un patrolled beach and traffic will likely increase.
    The owner does not seem understanding of the communities views. Hopefully the Coffs Council will take all our submissions on board considering we pay rates and live here.

  105. Vanessa commented

    I would like to object to this DA. The cafe is a much loved hub utilised by residents & visitors to meet and socialise in a relaxed environment. Removing the cafe will strip the suburb of this amenity which is of far greater need and value than a childcare centre, given the demographic of the area. There are no other amenities of this kind in Sapphire beach and the opportunity to walk or ride a bike to the café appeals to many people. Please consider the community's views and opinions of this asset when deciding on this application.

  106. Julie-Ann Glur commented

    Devastated to hear of this proposal!!! Losing Beachstone & the beautiful park space, would be such a major loss. Not just to the local Sapphire area, but all surrounding areas that come together here for social and musical activities. This a vital space for our local community to interact on all social levels, and attracts many visitors & tourists also. Beachstone offers locally grown, organic produce, sourced from local farms in the area, that provide business for these small farms. As a singer/songwriter, I have had the pleasure to perform at Beachstone, and very much appreciate that they provide a venue & audience, that supports local musicians here on a weekly basis. Please reconsider this proposal, it will definitely have a negative impact on our community and environment. I very much hope this application is rejected.

  107. Ron G commented

    I strongly object to the proposal to Convert the Beachstone Cafe into a child care centre for some of the following reasons.
    .It will take away from our amazing community atmosphere and aesthetic beauty of the area.
    . I don’t believe a child care centre facility is needed given the average age of the residents and the age of the majority children in the estate.
    . There appears to be adequate childcare centers in a close proximity with vacancies.
    .This amenity as is provides a wonderful social and recreational space for all ages. As well as providing a much needed venue where musians and artists have an opportunity to showcase their talents in a nice environment, such venues are such a rarity in our area.
    These elements allow for a healthy social recreational space, that are enjoyed and patronized by not only the immediate community, but by many visitors, young and old.
    Ron

  108. Tanyth Kapukaya commented

    It’s such a waste of a beautiful community park and cafe to replace it with yet another childcare centre.
    Beachstone is such a draw card to Sapphire and a lot of people bought their houses because of this great community area.
    A childcare centre can be put in so many other locations, this space can’t be replaced.

  109. Bec Pearson commented

    So sad to here of this idea of putting in a childcare center, where a beautiful little cafe and park is located. The loss of car parks for visitors to the area for day trips as well as extra traffic in the local area would have a negative impact on the local area. I don't believe that a childcare center would have any positive attributes towards the community of Sapphire.

  110. Tosan commented

    Vox Populi, Vox Dei - the voice of the people is the voice of god.

    If we as the people do not want a child care centre , why don’t the council just listen rather than subject us to repeated forms of petitioning.

    The cafe is beautiful and serves both residence and visitors . As a parent whose kid still attends childcare centre I do not need the cafe to be turned to a child care centre and I am happy to drive to Moonee or else where . Please Council, just LISTEN...

  111. C Lunter commented

    Beachstone is the heart of the Sapphire beach community and a real draw for those living in the area. It would be a travesty to demolish the cafe in order to replace it with an unnecessary childcare centre.

  112. Trent Grimston commented

    When we purchased our land to relocate and build our house, one of the main attractions was the provision of the cafe. To have this taken away would make us feel we had been led astray by the developers. I really don’t see how a child care centre can be needed or beneficial to the area, and the traffic congestion created would be horrendous and unsafe. I feel the proposed position for a child care centre next to a beach is not a safe location.

  113. Jodie Miller commented

    I strongly object to the plan to change Beachstone Café to a childcare centre.
    Beachstone Café is the main destination for our family to gather with other locals.
    It is loved by our community. It’s a space that can be enjoyed by everyone both young and old.
    The proposal to develop our community hub into a Child-care centre will advantage less than 3% of families (ABS stat). There is no need to build a centre in Sapphire as there are already 48 centres, in the Coffs Harbour area and 75% of those have vacancies.

    There is estimated to be around 200 school children who live in the Sapphire community who need to cross an already dangerous intersection during peak traffic times. We urge you to consider the safety of the children when reviewing this development application as there will be an increase in traffic if a child-care facility is built.

    We encourage you to listen to the needs of the people living in and around Sapphire beach and deny this development application for the reasons detailed above.

  114. Anna Barca commented

    Thos is such a bad idea as it will have a lot of negative effect
    1/. We would loose a beautiful (and rare in this part of town) outdoor play area where kids of all ages can spend time together. The child care will reduce even more the parking spaces available, so less people would be able to access.

    2/. There is already a high amount of child care centres !!! One more would only makes life harder gor family daycares who are doing it hard already with the amount of competition.

  115. Kate commented

    I strongly object to the application proposed to convert Beachstone Café into a childcare centre. The café was a major selling point when we bought our land and we visit it regularly along with many of our neighbours. It is the only facility in the Coffs Harbour area that allows families and friends to meet up and enjoy the benefits of a café while their children play safely in the playground . The loss of the café and what it currently offers the local community and visitors would be a huge loss.
    We do not need another childcare centre, there are several already located within a short distance from North Sapphire.

  116. Lois Oliver commented

    I am very disappointed to hear of this proposal the cafe/playground area adds so much to the estate and attracts many locals from surrounding northern beach suburbs that lack a community space such as this. There are plenty of childcare centres on the northern beaches all ready it does not need another one.

  117. Lil commented

    Such a shame!! We often visit sapphire with our two small children as it is such a great place for families with the cafe and playground and the beach nearby. Replacing the cafe with a childcare centre completely changes the feel of the area and in
    doing so it also takes away a fabulous community space.

  118. Caroline Gordon commented

    Sapphire beach has a lovely community feel to it. I object to the proposal of building a childcare centre as this will cause an increase in traffic and those that live there do not want this to happen. There are plenty of childcare centres nearby.

  119. Emma Khzouz commented

    The cafe and playground are both in keeping with a family friendly, community centred neighbourhood. We need more playgrounds and cafes in the northern beaches. The area could benefit from the addition of another cafe space but to have the only cafe space in the area taken away would be a great loss for everyone.

  120. Mel commented

    The proposed childcare facility in place of Beachstone Cafe is such a disappointment. My family enjoy this park and cafe which is a beautiful place to meet friends and hold birthday parties for our children. I would love to see this continue. Therefore I strongly appose the proposal of the childcare facility.

  121. Sharon marinucci commented

    This park and cafe should remain a space all can enjoy. The blocks in the estate were sold at a premium on the basis that this is what it would remain. It is an important and irreplaceable community hub.

  122. JP commented

    The beachstone area was a huge drawcard for the vast majority of sapphire homeowners. To now take that away from them is harsh. Listen to the people!

  123. Della Stokes commented

    No to childcare centre at this site. Yes to cafe.

  124. Claire commented

    I am writing to object to the proposed changes. The play area and cafe are both important amenities servicing the local area and to lose them would be a great loss for the local residents.

  125. Sheri Swayne commented

    We moved here from Canada because we LOVED what this community had to offer and what the developers told us the community was all about; Beachstone Café, a place to meet people, explore live Arts, middle aged kids to play, while parents are near by, walks to the beach with a place to gather and have a meal.

  126. Tosan commented

    Vox Populi, Vox Dei - the voice of the people is the voice of god.

    If we as the people do not want a child care centre , why don’t the council just listen rather than subject us to repeated forms of petitioning.

    The cafe is beautiful and serves both residents and visitors . As a parent whose child attends childcare, I do not need the Beachstone cafe to be turned into a child care centre , and I am happy to drive to Moonee or other childcare centres around. Please Council, just LISTEN...

  127. Richard commented

    Dear Council,

    Remember you were appointed/ elected/ chosen to serve the people.
    When the majority members of the community who you serve , express their displeasure over a childcare centre, and you persist with you said plan, this is tantamount to sheer arrogance or mere ignorance.
    I have listened to all the reasons for a child centre in the same location , and not one them has a justifiable explanation to counteract all the many oppositions to the childcare centre which I have read. Please go back to the drawing board and start proper governance / administration once again. This is so sad.

  128. Robert commented

    I strongly object to the building of the childcare centre in sapphire beach. It is unnecessary and will have a negative impact on the local community, particularly due to increased traffic within the area.

  129. Keah Harrigan commented

    As a member of the northern beaches community, i love coming to Beachstone cafe with my family and have done for many years. I strongly oppose the construction of a daycare centre at that location.

  130. Guy and Sue commented

    Surely you can't be serious ! ! What 10 year old in council planning would allow this proposal to proceed past the Council front door ?
    Clearly this is a failed and futile attempt at social planning . Is there still a pulse in the CHCC's community heart or is it flatlining ?
    Remove the current Beachstone Cafe and you cut out the "gem" from Sapphire Beach.
    We are current owners in Beach Way and the Cafe being part of the local community was one of the deciding factors in investing in the vibe of such a beautiful part of Australia.
    We vehemently object to a desecraction of this beautiful place !
    By the way -
    Desecration is the act of depriving something of its sacred character, or the disrespectful, contemptuous, or destructive treatment of that which is held to be sacred (or holy) by a group or individual.
    I hope the CHCC is listening the the "voters".

  131. Oregon commented

    I don’t support this potential development, the reduction of any community focused assets is disappointing. This park and cafe has brought tremendous joy to so many locals and visitors, let’s keep the special vibe the estate offers with this unique facility and keep traffic at a safe flow.

  132. Emma Clare Dougherty commented

    I do not support this application as it will take away from the community which the Beachstone facilitates. Most of the blocks of land within the surrounding suburbs are are very small and it's impossible to entertain large groups of friends and relatives. The cafe is a gathering spot and a place to make new friends and meet up with old friends and this proposed development would take this away from the larger community. In addition, I worked at Beachstone Cafe as a waitress a few years ago and there are a number of red-bellied black snakes (a few of which I have had personal interactions with) which frequently wander into the park and near the cafe. Therefore it would be extremely unsafe to develop a childcare center at this location as it will put not only the children at high risk for a deadly bite, but also put an unreasonable amount of pressure on the centre's staff and thusly hinder their ability to keep the children safe.

  133. Nick Price commented

    I don't support this childcare development being built there. It's a place for people of the community to connect. Like someone else said, it's the Gem of Sapphire Beach community. Don't do it!

  134. Will Dougherty commented

    There are many retired and older people in our community who use the Beachstone Cafe as a way of staying socially connected. For some without their families close by, it may be the only social contact they have all day. The cafe setting is inviting and encourages conversation between residents. A childcare center would only be relevant for a small percentage of residents whereas the Beachstone cafe is embraced by all. Perhaps the success of this award winning community can be measured enormous community response to the developers application to change the purpose of the building and hence the fabric of the community. The message should be loud and clear. We value the design that we bought into. The proposed change is not a good change for the community.

  135. Catherine Dougherty commented

    The Beachstone cafe is the heart of our community. It is inclusive of all ages and is a popular place for friends and family to gather. The proposed alterations to the building accommodate a childcare center would disrupt the visual and functional seamlessness of the design. I am concerned that residents paid a premium to purchase in an award winning master planned community with a cafe as it's social centerpiece and the lack of a cafe will lead to loneliness for many of the older residents.

  136. Alexander Dougherty commented

    I strongly object to this application.

    The Beachstone Cafe is a gathering place for family and friends. It's a place where our family goes to eat and relax. Our block of land, like many others, is very small so it's difficult to enjoy quality outdoor time with larger groups of visitors. This wasn't a concern when we were looking to buy land and build a home because we knew we would be able to invite our friends to meet us at the beach stone cafe. If the cafe had been a childcare center at that time, it's unlikely we would have bought our land. We appreciate the seamless design of the cafe and playground and the way it's brought the community together.

  137. Thomas Dougherty commented

    "FISHER DESIGN + ARCHITECTURE - 2008 UDIA NSW Awards -Best Residential Development.

    North Sapphire Beachstone Cafe and Amenities

    Fisher Design and Architecture with Cougle Projects

    Fisher Designs + Architecture was part of a project team of developers, planners and consultants, who were winners of the 2008 UDIA Category 2 Residential Development Award for the North Sapphire Beach Estate, Coffs Harbour.

    In the heart of the North Sapphire Beach development is a landscaped playground, the Beachstone Cafe, public toilets, and a lifeguard storage building.

    Integrated with the landscaped parklands, the amenity building designs complement the intelligent and sensitive urban design, contributing to the areas award winning success and popularity.

    THE HIGHLIGHT IS THE BEACHSTONE CAFE and it's seamless integration with the children's playground...This is an intelligent and sensitive design. Attention to detail, use of locally sourced materials and the quality of works is outstanding, setting a new benchmark for masterplanned coastal developments.

    Jury Citation "

    UDIA Urban Development Institute of Australia, New South Wales

    I urge Council to deny the Developers request to rip the heart out of our community after they have profited from promoting the Beachstone cafe as a seamless integration with the playground and integral to the intelligent and sensitive urban design of the community. The childcare center would cater to a very small percentage of families in the community whereas the cafe is embraced by the entire community. The alterations needed to make the building functional as a childcare center, would visually disrupt the seamlessness of this wonderful community gathering space.

  138. Amanda commented

    Its a great cafe and community space. Great safe place to take the kids for a play. Theses types of areas are essential for neighbourhoods. Removing it and putting a childcare centre would take that away from the community

  139. Simon commented

    This proposal will change the nature of the estate. I would prefer it remains as is. The kids and I use the cafe and park routinely.

  140. Emily Griffiths commented

    I strongly object to this DA. I don’t live in the area, however I often visit my friends on weekends who happen to live in stage 5. Without fail every visit we walk the dogs over to Beachstone for breakfast, lunch and/or dinner and I absolutely love going there.

    I’ve celebrated my close friends wedding their and share so many fond memories with my friends at this cafe.

    The staff are so friendly and the cafe promotes a real sense of community, unlike anywhere else I’ve seen. This would be a real loss to their community. Please don’t approve this DA!

  141. Gareth Morison commented

    My wife and I bought and built in the area based on the draw card of the cafe and it’s surrounds. We celebrated our wedding day there, we’ve had countless friends and family visit and fall in love with the cafe, and built many great friendships through our community there.
    About to have first our child, we fit the exact demographic and target market of a childcare centre. We simply do not want it. Not only would we be devastated at the loss of our beloved cafe, but it makes no sense to put our child in daycare on our doorstep. The cafe exists as a ‘destination’ amenity. It’s not in a strip mall, or near a school or even near anyone’s place of work - precisely where a childcare centre should be.
    Please do not approve this DA.

  142. Kelly Morison commented

    I strongly object to this D.A.
    As a resident of the beautiful North Sapphire Estate I would be disappointed to say the least in the approval of this d.a. The cafe was a big selling point when looking where to buy and build our first home and serves as a wonderful place to meet up with friends and family both from the community and surrounding areas. The cafe has been a place where the entire community can come together whether it be for Friday night catch up with the neighbours, to a wedding in the park and reception at the cafe or even just breakfast with my husband and two dogs after a big weekend walk at the beach. It is unique to our area and would be a big loss to our community. I do not see a need for a childcare centre on our community’s doorstep. Currently I am pregnant with our first child and would fit the demographic for someone who would want a childcare facility close to home but we do already have this right at Moonee amongst others at Korora close to the school and in town closer to my place of work which is much more convenient. I would not want to replace a wonderful establishment such as Beachstone cafe which is used by so many with a childcare facility used by very few.
    I ask that you listen to the many residents that will be affected daily by this change and wider community who will lose out and see the massive loss to all if this d.a approval goes ahead.

  143. Elizabeth Brewer commented

    Loss of great Northern community gathering space and increased traffic on narrow arterial roads.

  144. Craig Garner commented

    I object to this proposed development with two major concerns:

    1. The loss of the Beachstone Cafe would be to the determent of the local residents and their families. This is a fantastic shared social space that serves an important purpose for the community's well-being. We need inclusive places for all members of North Sapphire (and surrounding suburbs) to come together and socialize.

    2. The increased traffic that a childcare center demands is well beyond the capacity that the car park and inadequate driveway can handle. This would cause disturbance to nearby residents as excess vehicles would likely park along the side of nearby streets.

    The proposed child-care center is a clear misuse of the facilities and should not be allowed to proceed.

  145. James Hillier commented

    The Beachstone Cafe is one of the best features of the estate. Having the ability to walk from home in the estate to eat breakfast or lunch at Beachstone a huge lifestyle upgrade, and also prevents the need to drive further afield, which is better for the environment.

    My partner and I visit family in the estate and generally stay for weeks at a time. We enjoy walking to the cafe multiple times each visit. Beachstone is a clear point of pride for the residents and it would be a huge loss for everyone in the estate if the cafe were to be replaced.

    The Cafe in its current incarnation is an outstanding feature of the estate, and I object to this change on the grounds that adding a childcare centre would change the nature of the site and make many residents less inclined to use the park area, which would diminish the overall appeal of the estate and force people further away from home when seeking a cafe.

    Car parking at the site is limited enough as-is, and increasing pressure on this already limited resource would be inappropriate.

    Please do not approve this application.

  146. Evan G commented

    This proposed development will takeaway from the community atmosphere that has been lovingly built and cared for over many years at sapphire beach. The cafe at sapphire beach, simply put, has been building and maintaining a strong community (priceless), whilst providing a meeting place for all demographics, the loss of this cafe will be a direct loss for the community and that cannot be replaced or repaired. No to CCC. Yes to Cafe.

  147. Annabel James commented

    It would be a shame to see this proposal granted. It would impact the local community. As a family we enjoy seeing friends at Sapphire Beach and I’m concerned that amongst other factors, the increase traffic would negatively impact the area.

  148. Steve Ayers commented

    Losing Beachstone Café would be a huge loss of community amenity not only as a café but for live music, special events and for the fantastic integration it provides with the adjacent council owned park and playground.

    The increased traffic associated with a childcare centre will also be an issue – much of the Café traffic is foot and bike – and with little to no interest from the local community in a childcare centre, that means a significant increase in car traffic.

    My wife and I built in the North Sapphire Estate and having Beachstone Café within walking distance was a major draw card for us and we paid a premium to have this amenity. Losing our only café will surely drop prices or interest in our area.

    My neighbours from all across the estate, as well as friends and family from elsewhere – we all enjoy Beachstone Café. I’ve spoken to NO-ONE who actually wants a childcare centre in its place. Just no need for it.

    I strongly object to the proposed childcare centre.

  149. paul garner commented

    As a regular visitor to the estate to see family & frequent Beachstone Cafe i am amazed that there is a possibility of it becoming a childcare facility, having lived in many estates in different states i have not encountered anything as unique as this venue for community gatherings & private functions (ie; daughters wedding function) also it encourages families to use the adjacent facilities,please consider the long term effects of losing this wonderful place.

  150. Trent Schwarz commented

    I strongly object to the proposed childcare facility replacing our much loved cafe.

    After renting in the North Sapphire Beach estate we built our dream family home in 2011 at a premium and on the strong advertising campaign and discussions with the developers for their award winning estate which heavily promoted the purpose built Beachstone Cafe and adjoining playground. Property is held tightly within the area and will surely reduce demand and property values if this DA is approved.

    This is an important community hub for the whole estate and visitors alike where family and friends can get together and enjoy all the cafe has to offer (great food, awesome surrounds, fantastic staff, live music and a quiet beer) whilst children play in the council owned park and playground in safety. The cafe operators are extremely busy and is well patronised by all.

    In addition we feel their is no demand for another childcare facility in the area let alone Coffs Harbour. Significant vacancies are evident within existing 48 childcare facilities in Coffs area. If the child care centre fails what then ??

    Other concerns are increased traffic and blind corners within the estate.
    Also fire hazard could be an issue with the proposed extensions being close to existing bushland and one road in and out of the estate. My home building insurance has just doubled as North Sapphire Beach as we are regarded as a high fire zone !!

    We feel it is nothing but a broken promise to all the local community who supported the developers when they needed sales.

    Say NO to the proposed DA

  151. Virginia Schwarz commented

    This is GREED !!! How would you feel if you were promised the world and then had that removed from your family, friends and the community? I agree with so many others that this development should not go ahead.

  152. Tracey Tate commented

    I am gobsmacked as to how there is even a discussion concerning changing the current space from the gathering space it is. The answer is simple; do not take away the cafe & park space.

    There is no community need for another childcare facility, but the need for a community building family space is of paramount importance in this age of disconnect. It would be a terrible shame to see the space so grossly misrepresented.

    Let me please state "I strongly object to the proposed development."

  153. Steve Higgins commented

    This da seeks to take away the single social amenity fromm all residents to favour a few. Council in approving this area has not used its town planning powers to ensure what residents mistakenly believed was a social facility set in concrete. Council has approved a huge number of house blocks with inadequately retail and social facilities.

  154. Tim Morison commented

    I regularly visit the area and a childcare centre in this location is inappropriate in my view. The increased traffic and additional parking required will be detrimental to the current environment. I strongly object to this development application.

  155. Jim Wray commented

    I brought into this subdivision at a premium price , part of the appeal was the Beachstone Cafe ,ease of access , low traffic volumes etc ...
    This is part of a community concept that was sold as part of the subdivision . To change this from a community hub to a child care centre is just a money grab and not I need line with the values set by the developer ..
    I suspectif if the community ( ratepayers) we’re polled by the council , less than 5% would agree with the DA . I therefore would expect the elected council to support the majority or residents by REJECTING the DA

  156. Chiara Lisciotto commented

    Very unimpressed with the proposal to develop Beachstone Cafe into a childcare. The current venue is so versatile and accommodating to both locals and tourists such as myself. We choose to stay at Sapphire Beach several times a year and will visit the cafe daily as we love the calm ambience. Converting the cafe to a childcare will kill the relaxing getaway feel of the area and will discourage us tourists from returning.

  157. Jasmine Lisciotto commented

    Sapphire beach is a warm, welcoming and quiet community. The proposal of turning Beachstone cafe into a childcare centre would uphold the current community nature and increase traffic, noise and the more importantly the daily lives of Sapphire Beach residence.
    The location of Beach Stone cafe is surrounded by homes and used daily as a public space for families and friends to gather and create memories with the use of the cafe’s private hire option. I attended my brother and sister in-laws wedding at the cafe which proposed a perfect location.

  158. Kenneth and Helen Elliott commented

    My wife and I recently purchased a property within walking distance and within earshot of the Beachstone Café and whilst our purchase was not entirely contingent on the Cafe's existence it was a major component in our decision. As retirees we were looking forward to peaceful and relaxed mornings and the ability to meet friends and neighbours for coffee, drinks or dinner at the café. Now the tranquility of this environment is set to be disrupted by the screaming of children everyday of the week. We strongly believe this development will remove the sense of community that the current Café and park allows the residents of Sapphire beach.
    The plans and proposed development are out of character with the local environment, the natural beauty of the area and the sense of peaceful community this space creates. We are absolutely against this application and ask the Council to refuse it.

  159. Terrence Cannon commented

    I say no to the child care development for the same reasons as many others. My main reason is I would not like to see the same thing happen as it did to a young boy and his friends near my home when I lived Nana Glen, when he was killed and two of his friend were hospitalised after being hit by a motor vehicle in a 60 klm zone on their way to school. This car had previously been travelling in an 80 klm zone be entering the 60klm zone. Meanwhile at Sapphire these cars will be coming off a 110 klm zone which can make some people complacent about the speed they are doing as these people will be trying to meet deadline themselves. The road into the proposed child care centre has a number of spots with bad visibility and children use these roads to walk to school buses. I would not like to see another tragedy such as the one at Nana Glen.

  160. Philip Wright commented

    I am a regular visitor to the Sapphire Beach area with one of the highlights of our trips being an opportunity for the family to visit the Beach Stone cafe. It is a family venue with an outdoor area for all the community. I would say it is the key thing that separates Sapphire Beach from other coastal communities as it brings the people together in a friendly and communal atmosphere. A childcare centre will just limit the enjoyment to those who attend the centre and not those visiting or living in the immediate proximity. I would seriously reconsider whether Sapphire Beach is a future holiday destination if the childcare centre proceeds.

  161. K S commented

    The commercial premises should cater to an appropriate business that will remain viable. A childcare centre with a kiosk may be the best alternate use for this space. Food and beverages would still be available and could be consumed in the public park.
    Would a stand alone café be viable/profitable in this space? Have previous tenancies and business owners been profitable? It is nice to have a café but if a café doesn't generate sufficient profit to remain solvent then other business types need to be considered.
    I purchased land and built in North Sapphire Estate. My decision would have been no different if Beachstone was a childcare centre with a kiosk and adjoining public park. I don't feel it would change traffic conditions or parking much at all.

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